Author: Harald Faber
Date: 08:03:14 06/24/99
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On June 24, 1999 at 09:42:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>A reason why you don't count Hiarcs-Hergott? >>>>> >>>>>yes... games were not 40/2, games were held in a mall. Hergott is a weaker >>>>>IM. It was so noisy he had to wear headphones.. >>>>>etc... >>>> >>>>1) IM is IM; who gives the right and is able to judge WEAK or STRONG? Even a >>>>WEAK IM is still an IM. >>>>2) Hiarcs WON. Although it was only 6 games. But 6 games plus 6 games >>>>plus...plus... someday make a bunch. >>>>3) I guess it was Fischer who said: "the only ones with no excuses when they >>>>lose against me are computers." >>> >>> >>>Doesn't matter. You don't earn a GM norm playing an IM in a match. So trying >>>to answer the question "are computers at GM level?" is not going to be answered >>>by playing an IM in a noisy mall at non-40/2 time controls... >> >>You try to miss the point, don't you? ;-) >>If you win an IM clearly, then you are certainly ABOVE. Right? And what is above >>IM? Is there something between IM and GM? I don't know of anything. >>I was not talking of EARNING a NORM. >>I was talking of GM LEVEL. > > >No you don't. If you beat an IM, you are probably an IM. But you aren't a >GM until you can play with GMs... And using the Hergott match doesn't mean >much. What GM would play chess where he has to wear headphones to drown out >the noise? I suppose Hergott knew the conditions. >And the games were _not_ 40/2hr, which is the time control we are >discussing? Anyone remember the time control EXACTLY before we continue guessing? >>>And hiarcs did >>>win... but aren't we discussing 40/2hr time controls here? The hiarcs/Hergott >>>match was not 40/2. So it all seems totally unrelated to the question being >>>asked... >> >>What was the time control then? AFAIR it was 40/120 or VERY VERY CLOSE. > > >I think it was something like 40/60, then game/30. AFAIR it was MUCH slower. But my memory fails from time to time. :-)
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