Author: blass uri
Date: 08:48:29 06/24/99
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On June 24, 1999 at 11:00:01, Harald Faber wrote: >On June 24, 1999 at 09:47:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>>>>>If you win an IM clearly, then you are certainly ABOVE. Right? And what is above >>>>>>IM? Is there something between IM and GM? I don't know of anything. >>>>>>I was not talking of EARNING a NORM. >>>>>>I was talking of GM LEVEL. >>>>>> >>>>>>>And hiarcs did >>>>>>>win... but aren't we discussing 40/2hr time controls here? The hiarcs/Hergott >>>>>>>match was not 40/2. So it all seems totally unrelated to the question being >>>>>>>asked... >>>>>> >>>>>>What was the time control then? AFAIR it was 40/120 or VERY VERY CLOSE. >>>>> >>>>>Don't forget other matches. Mchess 6 has won GM Nesis(?) 3,5 - 2,5 under >>>>>tournament conditions!!! This is more DATA for Bob. >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>>Both of you guys are picking and choosing events. This is precisely what Bob is >>>>trying to avoid by sticking with a current timeframe where all of the results >>>>are remembered, whether pro- or contra- to the assertion that programs are of GM >>>>strength. >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>Picking events? Yes. The only events that took place. For NOT PICKING let us >>>please start a collection of games between humans and computers under tournament >>>or close to tournament time control, started 1995 e.g. >> >> >>That is the 'problem'. I think you listed almost _all_ of the GM vs computer >>games (at 40/2hr) above. :) (ie there are practically none). > >I don't know but if it is so you can't say I'd only pick the wins if there are >ONLY wins. :-) There were clearly draws and losses. Junior4.9 drew with 3 GM's in porat memorial tournament. Junior5 got 0.5 out of 2 against GM yudasin These games were tournament time control. Uri
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