Author: Mark Young
Date: 16:51:09 06/24/99
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On June 24, 1999 at 19:11:42, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >On June 24, 1999 at 13:37:54, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On June 24, 1999 at 13:18:03, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >> >>> >>>I have been playing games at 40/2 against Hiarcs 7.32 optimized for the best >>>settings. I have noticed that on numerous occasions even when I played the move >>>expected by Hiarcs, the program took around 10 minutes to respond. I find it >>>difficult to understand why it should have taken Hiarcs that long to respond to >>>a move it expected. >>> >>>How do we really know that Hiarcs 7.32 retains the hash-tables between moves? Do >>>you see the hash-table info on the screen? >> >>No, but it does retain the hash-tables. My problem with it is that if i go back >>a move it will play it instantly without clearing the hash-tables. Ex: I submit >>a position for it to ponder. It produces the move. Fine, now suppose I wanted to >>time it properly. If I let it play it's planned move (which it took 5 minutes to >>choose) and then go back and ask it to think again, the move will appear >>immediately as it's prime candidate. In order to clear the hash tables I have to >>have it compute a different position and then come back. > >Hello Albert, > >You are absolutely certain that Hiarcs 7.32 retains the hash-tables between >moves? I have played against it at 40/2 and I have experimented as you state >above by taking back a move and forcing Hiarcs to redo the move; however, I did >not get an instantaneous response as apparently you did. It still took Hiarcs a >fair amount of time to re-make the move. I wonder what time control you were >experimenting with, and if your result was possibly due to a faster time >control?> It does retain the hash tables, I took a position where it took about 5 min to find the correct move about 10 plys. Then researched that position, it went to 10 ply and found the correct move in 0 secs. > >Regards, >Mel > >> Albert Silver >> >>> Does it say that in the manual on the >>>CD? The manual on the CD is the manual for Fritz 5.32. Are you certain this is >>>in fact Hiarcs 7.32? >>> >>> >>>As someone well-respected here often says: "Show me proof". >>> >>>Furthermore, all this talk about tablebases makes we wonder. I placed the CD >>>under my breakfast table and it only supported one leg! I would need 3 more >>>Hiarcs CD's to have full capability to support my breakfast table. Therefore, I >>>conclude that Hiarcs tablebases are not only incomplete, but also not very >>>practical. >>> >>>Any comments to the above will be given the utmost consideration. Please - only >>>well-informed sources should reply. I will respect all opinions which disagree >>>with mine even though they are wrong. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Mel
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