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Subject: Re: Poll Question for "If Computers are finally as Strong as GM's"

Author: Peter Hegger

Date: 10:34:33 06/25/99

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On June 25, 1999 at 13:27:24, Peter Hegger wrote:

>On June 24, 1999 at 09:47:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 1999 at 05:23:21, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 1999 at 05:09:40, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 1999 at 04:11:14, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 24, 1999 at 03:31:41, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you win an IM clearly, then you are certainly ABOVE. Right? And what is above
>>>>>>IM? Is there something between IM and GM? I don't know of anything.
>>>>>>I was not talking of EARNING a NORM.
>>>>>>I was talking of GM LEVEL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And hiarcs did
>>>>>>>win... but aren't we discussing 40/2hr time controls here?  The hiarcs/Hergott
>>>>>>>match was not 40/2.  So it all seems totally unrelated to the question being
>>>>>>>asked...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What was the time control then? AFAIR it was 40/120 or VERY VERY CLOSE.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't forget other matches. Mchess 6 has won GM Nesis(?) 3,5 - 2,5 under
>>>>>tournament conditions!!! This is more DATA for Bob.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>Both of you guys are picking and choosing events.  This is precisely what Bob is
>>>>trying to avoid by sticking with a current timeframe where all of the results
>>>>are remembered, whether pro- or contra- to the assertion that programs are of GM
>>>>strength.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>Picking events? Yes. The only events that took place. For NOT PICKING let us
>>>please start a collection of games between humans and computers under tournament
>>>or close to tournament time control, started 1995 e.g.
>>
>>
>>That is the 'problem'.  I think you listed almost _all_ of the GM vs computer
>>games (at 40/2hr) above.  :)  (ie there are practically none).
>
>How about the 2 games Bent Larsen 1-0 Hi-tech and Walter Browne 1-0 Hi-tech?
>Both games were 40/2. Perhaps they shouldn't count though as they weren't played
>on micros.

Oops... that should read Hi-tech 1-0 Larsen



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