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Subject: Re: Game 2: Uscf 2265 Master Vs Hiarcs6 ! Master wins in 19 moves!!???

Author: Andrew

Date: 22:25:07 06/25/99

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On June 26, 1999 at 01:08:46, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On June 25, 1999 at 23:34:36, odell hall wrote:
>
>>Hi CCC
>>
>>
>>  I am simply speechless, can someoneelse who owns hiarcs6 verify the below
>>moves? I am not using the fritz5 based hiarcs6 but the full program.  Today the
>>master made the win look even easier than the day before.  In the tradition of
>>anti-computer play the master simply gave up a few pawns for an unstoppable king
>>side attack.  It was far to late before hiarcs6 recognized it was completley
>>lost. What's even more odd is that I have played dozens of games with hiarcs
>>against other computers and have never seen it lose like this in 19 moves!!
>>After these two games I think I may have to rethink my position on the Computer
>>grandmaster stand.   The best answer I have is that I am running hiarcs in the
>>windows enviroment.  The problem with this theory is that I ran the game in dos
>>mode and hiarcs choose the exact same moves!!   Inspite of these Loses I am
>>still convinced hiarcs6 is one of the best programs I am simply at a loss to
>>explain this result.  Here's the game
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Event "Match game\60 game2"]
>>[Site "chess club"]
>>[Date "1999.06.25"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Richard uscf2265"]
>>[Black "Hiarcs6 Cyrix233 16m"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[WhiteElo "2265"]
>>[BlackElo "2520"]
>>[ECO "B23"]
>>
>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 g6 5. Bc4 Bg7 6. O-O Nf6 7. d3 O-O
>>8. Qe1 a6 9. a4 Bd7 10. Qh4 Nb4 11. f5 gxf5 12. Bh6 Nxc2 13. Rac1 Bxh6
>>14. Qxh6 Nb4 15. Ng5 e5 16. exf5 d5 17. Bxd5 c4 18. dxc4 Qb6+ 19. Kh1 1-0
>
>
>Odell,
>
>This is just a typical anti-computer kingside attack.  I have seen the same
>thing hundreds of times on ICC.
>
>I think the claims of "GM strength" are only viable if you show up with the
>latest hardware & software (maybe Hiarcs 7.32 on a P3-550).  I strongly doubt
>that Hiarcs 6 on a Cyrix 233 w/ 16MB RAM is GM strength at anything other than
>blitz or semi-blitz time controls.
>
>--Peter

 Do you really think 2x faster hardware would save Hiarcs from getting into such
a lost position? Unless programs learn to recognize, properly judge and
neutralize  possibility of king side attacks no speed increase will help here :)
-Andrew-



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