Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 01:06:46 06/26/99
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On June 26, 1999 at 01:11:51, odell hall wrote:
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>On June 26, 1999 at 00:02:02, Peter Hegger wrote:
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>>On June 25, 1999 at 23:34:36, odell hall wrote:
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>>>Hi CCC
>>>
>>>
>>> I am simply speechless, can someoneelse who owns hiarcs6 verify the below
>>>moves? I am not using the fritz5 based hiarcs6 but the full program. Today the
>>>master made the win look even easier than the day before. In the tradition of
>>>anti-computer play the master simply gave up a few pawns for an unstoppable king
>>>side attack. It was far to late before hiarcs6 recognized it was completley
>>>lost. What's even more odd is that I have played dozens of games with hiarcs
>>>against other computers and have never seen it lose like this in 19 moves!!
>>>After these two games I think I may have to rethink my position on the Computer
>>>grandmaster stand. The best answer I have is that I am running hiarcs in the
>>>windows enviroment. The problem with this theory is that I ran the game in dos
>>>mode and hiarcs choose the exact same moves!! Inspite of these Loses I am
>>>still convinced hiarcs6 is one of the best programs I am simply at a loss to
>>>explain this result. Here's the game
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Event "Match game\60 game2"]
>>>[Site "chess club"]
>>>[Date "1999.06.25"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Richard uscf2265"]
>>>[Black "Hiarcs6 Cyrix233 16m"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2265"]
>>>[BlackElo "2520"]
>>>[ECO "B23"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 g6 5. Bc4 Bg7 6. O-O Nf6 7. d3 O-O
>>>8. Qe1 a6 9. a4 Bd7 10. Qh4 Nb4 11. f5 gxf5 12. Bh6 Nxc2 13. Rac1 Bxh6
>>>14. Qxh6 Nb4 15. Ng5 e5 16. exf5 d5 17. Bxd5 c4 18. dxc4 Qb6+ 19. Kh1 1-0
>>
>>This is absolutely astonishing...I am also at a loss for a rational explanation.
>>The master is obviously very good at anti-computer strategy, but still..this is
>>a mind boggling result.
>>Has his rating always hovered around the 2265 area?
>>Peter
>
>
> His new rating is now 2274, He has been between 2241 and 2274 since 1996.
> Also he says he doesn't play computers much at all , but uses them exclusively
>analyzing opening. He commented that he noticed alot of weakness in it's
>evaluation of certain positions. Apparently he used this knowledge in game 2.
>This is really disappointing for me, I was a huge hiarcs6 fan. I still think it
>is a good program, this particular master is just good at playing computers.
>Some masters understand the weakness of computers more than others apparently.
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Hi odell and hiarcs fans!
I did some more comparisons with Hiarcs7.32 and i believe if the correct
moves were played starting from the Opening Stage and early Middle Game, then
Hiarcs would not have to fight for his life trying to Salvage the game and he
then would have better chances overall! Early in the Opening on move 8.---a6,
Hiarcs7.32 prefers on move 8.---Bg4 which is a developing move and i believe is
a better choice in the opening.
Now for move 12.---Nxc2?, Hiarcs7.32 prefers 12.--- Bxh6 (-.53/9)13.Qxh6, b5
(-.27/8)14.axb5,axb5 15.Rxa8,Qxa8 etc. If we play the game as Hiarcs6 up to move
14.Nb4, Hiarcs7.32 prefers Nd4(.20/10), weather this move salvages the game is
perhaps too late at this point. My Point is that Hiarcs7.32 made some better
choices earlier that would have changed the game and maybe a different outcome
than this horrible finish!
I tested the game with the same time control and was using a AMD K6,266mhz
with 64RAM. I think Hiarcs7.32 would have gave a better battle in this Opening
Just my opinion!
Best regards,
Terry
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