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Subject: Re: Yes, Hiarcs 6 is Dumb.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 14:38:38 06/26/99

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On June 26, 1999 at 17:11:19, James Robertson wrote:

>On June 26, 1999 at 14:15:11, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>If we are going to make the conclusion here in CCC, as goes Hiarcs6 in this
>>match so goes all chess programs. I would like to make a suggestion. Don't let
>>Hiarcs 6 repersent the other chess programs in this match. Hiarcs 6 as I have
>>posted in the past is one of the worst programs at faster time controls.
>
>Faster time controls...??? I really can't help but laugh. Weren't we just a
>little while ago saying there isn't much difference between G/60 and 40/2?

No.

 It
>seems unlikely that doubling the time control will raise Hiarcs' rating 300-500
>points.

Are you saying Hiarcs 6 is not even of master strenght. I look at programs as
individuals. And like any individual they play at different strenghts at
different time controls. That is why I test programs at many time controls
ranging for blitz to standard time controls. Because I test this way I know that
hiarcs 6 at this time controls is very weak at this time control against  this
type of tactic play. There are much better programs that can deal with this type
of play at this time controls on halls slower computer.

>
>>It is
>>very slow in seeing danger and will ofter make itself look dumb.
>
>I do agree there.... but Fritz on a P400 couldn't see the danger either, so I
>don't think Hiarcs is the exception in not seeing the danger.

Don't know about Fritz, but Hiarcs 7.32 would have done better, as seen for the
move it would have played.

>
>>
>>On the computer system that Hall is running, I would suggest using Chess Genius
>>5. Genius 5 is one of the best if not the best program playing humans at this
>>time control, and the program is of the same generation as Hiarcs 6.
>
>Do you really think Chess Genius is 300-500 points stronger than Hiarcs against
>Humans?

Yes, if you think that best programs are only rated 2000 because of Hiarcs 6
weakness.

>
>>
>>As I have posted in the past I played a match some time ago with GM A Ivanov. I
>>used genius 5 running on a Cyrix P 166. The time control for the match was 30
>>mins plus 30 secs a move. Genius 5 won with ease and GM A Ivanov quit the match.
>
>I did not hear about this; could you post the games, date, and other
>information?
>
>Also, this is unrelated to the post, but weren't you the one who set up the
>Yermo - Hiarcs match? I will have to go back through the archives, as my memory
>is really failing me here.... :(

No it was not me, When I play a match with a GM I wait until the games have
started before saying anything.

>
>James



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