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Subject: Re: Yes, Hiarcs 6 is Dumb.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 17:03:22 06/26/99

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On June 26, 1999 at 19:31:41, Marc Plum wrote:

>On June 26, 1999 at 14:15:11, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>If we are going to make the conclusion here in CCC, as goes Hiarcs6 in this
>>match so goes all chess programs. I would like to make a suggestion. Don't let
>>Hiarcs 6 repersent the other chess programs in this match. Hiarcs 6 as I have
>>posted in the past is one of the worst programs at faster time controls. It is
>>very slow in seeing danger and will ofter make itself look dumb.
>
>I won't argue with this opinion or confirm it.  I have little experience with
>the DOS HIARCS 6.  However, remember that one of the big advertising points for
>this program was the perfectly true claim that it won a match at tournament time
>controls against an International Master.  I think one of the things we can
>learn from this whole brouhaha is that such claims don't tell the whole story.
>On the other hand, since it did have this result, it must have something going
>for it.

Yes it does, it just need long time controls. It is much weaker at the faster
time controls when confronted with good anti-computer play.

>
>>
>>On the computer system that Hall is running, I would suggest using Chess Genius
>>5. Genius 5 is one of the best if not the best program playing humans at this
>>time control, and the program is of the same generation as Hiarcs 6.
>>
>>As I have posted in the past I played a match some time ago with GM A Ivanov. I
>>used genius 5 running on a Cyrix P 166. The time control for the match was 30
>>mins plus 30 secs a move. Genius 5 won with ease and GM A Ivanov quit the match.
>
>Do I understand correctly that Ivanov quit after one game, or before the match
>had been decided?  That's too bad.  If the match had been completed, Genius
>indeed might have won, but surely it isn't safe to assume that it *would* have
>been so.
>
>Perhaps I misunderstood you completely and Ivanov quit only after the match had
>been decided but before all the scheduled games had been played.  I'm sorry, but
>I missed your previous posts about this; would you mind clarifying?

Gm Ivanov quit after going down a few games, I think Genius was +3 or +4 after
only a few games. Then he quit and left in the middle of a game where genius was
going up a rook. He did not even resign the game. That was the last I heard from
GM A. Ivanov. I asked GM Roman to award the win to Genius because it had a won
position and had no chance of losing, and GM Roman agreed and gave the win to
genius ending the match.

We played a game or two aday depending on how much GM Ivanov wanted to play.

>
>Best Regards,
>
>Marc Plum



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