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Subject: Re: Yes, Hiarcs 6 is Dumb.

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 02:23:50 06/27/99

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On June 27, 1999 at 04:26:05, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On June 26, 1999 at 20:47:27, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 1999 at 17:58:30, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>On June 26, 1999 at 17:13:04, James Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 26, 1999 at 17:06:28, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I agree Mark, you said it all in a nut shell! If you checked out my last two
>>>>>posts to his last two games where i let Hiarcs7.32 play the same games at the
>>>>>same time in the critical positions,Hiarcs would not have made those weak moves!
>>>>>Plus Hiarcs6 and Hiarcs7.32 don`t even agree to some of the early moves in the
>>>>>Opening stages!!
>>>>>--------
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>My program doesn't make some of the weak moves and doesn't agree on most of the
>>>>early moves in the opening stages. What's your point?
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>---------
>>>The point, James
>>>   Some observers on this forum are comparing these two loses against the low
>>>rated master as why Chess programs are not High Rated Masters because they would
>>>not have made those silly errors and as the result a loss. Don`t compare Hiarcs6
>>>loss to the other high rated programs as though these would also perform as
>>>poorly and also don`t deserve to be known as high rated Masters. The moves i
>>>posted from Hiarcs7.32 in the 2 games, shows it would have performed better and
>>>probaly beat the the rated master!
>>
>>Well.... that is like saying that if Sokolov had not played 11. Bc5 at the WCCC
>>he probably would have beaten Fritz.
>>
>>>   My friend is a 2345 USCF Master and played more than 2 dozen games at time
>>>controls of game/60min., game/45min. and games/30 against Chessmaster6000 in my
>>>home and his results to show are Only 1 win!!! Top Programs are Grandmasters!
>>
>>That still proves nothing; he may be extremely inept at playing computers, USCF
>>ratings are >100 points higher than FIDE ratings, and who knows what the
>>circumstances were at your house. Could be anything from a construction crew
>>building a skyscraper next door to him chatting and relaxing with you. :)
>>
>>James
>>
>>>Thats my Point!
>>>Best regards.
>>>Terry
>-----------
>Hardly James,
>      He took these games Very seriously because he knew that the games were
>going to be distributed to the members of our club and he doesnt like to lose to
>anyone or anything! You know thats the criteria for a good player!
>      He was Pennsylvania State Champion the past 3 years in a row and there
>were some higher ratings than his that he needed to Beat!!!
>--------
>Terry
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James, you don`t get my drift! Your comment about if Sokolov had played a
different move then he probaly would have beaten Fritz! I can`t agree with you
more on this statement but I`am talking about a different upgraded program
(Hiarcs7.32) disagreeing with Hiarcs6 moves at certain critical points of the
game! Example= Asking Kasporov`s opinion of Sokolov`s game on the critical move
at move 11.Bc5 and we would all respect Kasporov`s opinion of a different move
instead of 11.Bc5 because he is a stronger player.A different move at a critical
point can change the outcome. That is what i mean by comparing Hiarcs6 to
Hiarcs7.32 with the disagreement of certain key moves in those 2 games.I was
making those key move comparisons because there are people on this forum
comparing Hiarcs6 loses to a low rated master to the other top programs, saying
that this is why all chess programs are still not High Rated Masters!
I hope i`am getting my point across, this is just what i meant.
--------
Best regards.
Terry



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