Author: Mark Young
Date: 11:37:44 06/27/99
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On June 27, 1999 at 07:04:53, blass uri wrote: > >On June 27, 1999 at 06:16:55, Terry Ripple wrote: > >>On June 27, 1999 at 05:55:46, blass uri wrote: >> >>> >>>On June 27, 1999 at 04:29:27, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On June 27, 1999 at 04:16:39, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Uri >>>> >>>>From what I gather, most of the games played between Fritz and Hiarcs have been >>>>played on one computer. Now from most games I have played with one machine a >>>>program is always disadvantaged. >>>> >>>>And with such large hash tables being used, the time to clear them would take >>>>time. >>>Hi Michael >>> >>>The time to clear big hash tables is not more than few seconds and it is not >>>significant at tournament time control. >>>Hiarcs has an advantage by the fact it can save time by not clearing the hash >>>tables but I do not think that it is a big advantage. >>> >>>I do not think that thesre should be a big difference between one computer and >>>two computers unless there is a bug in one of these systems. >>> >>>Uri >>----- >>Hi Uri, >> What about the "pondering" idea? Does Hiarcs7.32 have enough of an advantage >>over its competition because it has stored information about its past move and >>so it don`t need to start over in its analysis on its next move like Fritz needs >>to do! It looks like no one on this forum can even guess how much of an >>advantage this might give to Hiarcs on single engine matches! >> Any opinions on this? > >I think that it is only a small advantage (I guess that p200 vs p90 that is in >the ssdf games is clearly a bigger advantage and in the rating it give less than >100 elo difference. > >I guess that this gives hiarcs7.32 40 elo advantage(it can explain results like >5.5:4.5 for Hiarcs instead of 5:5 but not more than it) I don't know if its even 40 elo, but say it is, it is clear this does not explain the results we have seen with Hiarcs 7.32. Even if I give the other programs a +2 game handicap in a 20 game match, Hiarcs7.32 still wins. I may have been more suspect of Hiarcs 7.32's results if I had not tested Hiarcs 7 on two computers and did the games by hand. But here also Hiarcs 7 was clearly the better program IMO looking at the games and results. > >Uri >Uri >>------ >>Terry
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