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Subject: Re: Hiarcs7.32 vrs Hiarcs6 at Game/ 5 min.> Score 29.5 to 20.5, Only 59% Win

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 02:22:13 06/28/99

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On June 28, 1999 at 05:00:38, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On June 28, 1999 at 04:28:22, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 1999 at 03:53:21, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>Hiarcs7.32 has Only a 59% Winning Advantage over Hiarcs6 after 50 games at 5min.
>>>
>>>All games were played with a AMD K6-2, 266mhz MMX with 64RAM! This time control
>>>shows no advantage to Hiarcs7.32 with its ability of retaining hashtables
>>>between moves! Score: Hiarcs7.32 = 29.5 to 20.5, I don`t see the advantage here!
>>>
>>>Blitz:5'/AMD  1999
>>>
>>>                 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
>>>1   Hiarcs 7.32  0001½½½½½½½011½½1½½1110110½100½½1½½1½01½½1½½11½½11 29.5/50
>>>2   Hiarcs 6.0   1110½½½½½½½100½½0½½0001001½011½½0½½0½10½½0½½00½½00 20.5/50
>>
>>
>>Terry,
>>
>>Do you see 18 won games by Hiarcs 7.32 and 9 won by Hiarcs 6??  That is 100%
>>improvement in winning odds by H 7.32 over H 6  and that is what is important.
>>Draws don't mean much even in human chess matches.  The 23 draws only mean that
>>both programs are good at tactics and deciding when to trade-off to an even end-
>>game.
>>
>>In political elections such a victory would be called a "landslide" with
>>emphasis put on the opponent only getting 41% of the vote.
>>
>>Hiarcs 7.32 is clearly superior and your data prove it.
>>
>>Tim Frohlick
>----------
>Hi Tim,
>  Your absolutly correct! I can see your point and just wasn`t thinking straight
>after having a late night playing a tuff chess club tournament. The only thing i
>was looking at were the numbers and wasn`t considering all those draws! Thankyou
>for correcting this definite mistake.
>-------
>Terry Ripple
----------
Hi Tim,
  So when not counting the draws, means out of 27 games Hiarcs7.32 has a  67%
winning advantage over Hiarcs6 so this calculates that Hiarcs7.32 would be about
a USCF rating difference of 120 points stronger at games in 5 min. Does this
sound about right? SSDF rates H6 at a 2524 at 40/2hr. so where is H7.32 on the
SSDF list?  And then i need to convert to USCF Scale which is about 100 points
or so more. I`am getting my SSDF information from the March 28,99 rating list.
------
Terry



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