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Subject: Re: Which Program Would do the Best on ICC?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:00:40 06/28/99

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On June 28, 1999 at 09:57:20, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On June 28, 1999 at 01:27:53, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On June 27, 1999 at 16:43:59, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 1999 at 15:49:53, odell hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I am thinking about setting up a computer account on ICC? Does anyone know
>>>>Which Program would  do the best? If the choice was between Genius 5 , hiarcs6,
>>>>Mchess 8 or Genius 3? I have heard that Genius 5 is the Best a blitz chess
>>>>(game/15) is this still true. What program would tear the crafty clone Data to
>>>>shreds!!  (incredibly strong data is!) Or should I just go out and purchase
>>>>Chessmaster 6000 to do the Job?
>>>
>>>The best results I have had is with Hiarcs 7.01. I have not had a chance to play
>>>7.32 online because of the testing I am running now. I most likely will only
>>>test Hiarcs 7.32 against humans online, after testing Hiarcs 7.01 online against
>>>other computers its left a bad taste in my mouth. I try to test against the best
>>>programs online and play a set amount of games, but with Hiarcs 7 this became
>>>almost impossible because of the high winning percentage Hiarcs 7 was
>>>generating. The automatic programs would no play me, or change the time formula
>>>to only play 0 inc games in the middle of my testing, and some of the other
>>>manuale computer operators were no better. Rating protection in online play is
>>>only getting worse, and thats to bad because it was a nice tool to use in the
>>>evaluation of chess programs.
>>
>>I do not understand it.
>>I think that programmers should prefer to play against strong opponents because
>>they can learn from the games that they lose to improve their programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>He is not talking about programmers.
>
>bruce


Bruce, myself, Stanback, Ban, plus the usual cast of the "under 2600 club" here
play on ICC and do just what you suggest.  But we are a tiny bit of the total
number of computers playing there.  There are dozens of Fritz, Hiarcs, shredder,
and so forth (not to mention crafty, comet, tcb, etc) that are run by _others_.
And _they_ are not working on improving their programs.  Many work only to
improve their 'rating' which is a point I don't understand.




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