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Subject: Re: Chess Data, Minimax, and the X-Ray problem

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:12:20 06/28/99

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On June 28, 1999 at 19:38:49, Heiner Marxen wrote:
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>>Imagin, I am at some node.  Now it has been analyzed to 16 plies and the
>>children (of which there are 40 possible) have only 14 entries.  Of these two
>>are at 15 plies and 5 at 12 plies and 7 at 9 plies.  How can I update the >parent from this?
>
>IMO, not at all.  The 16-ply result is already build from 15-ply sub-results.
>Even those cannot improve the 16-ply result.
>You can look at this in a similar way as when you find a hash hit: smaller
>depth than wanted is just not usable.  (Exception: mate scores)
I will have to explore this some.  I have seen many examples where a parent at
depth 16 does not see what the child sees at depth 15.  Perhaps this is due to
null move pruning.  It may not be as ludicrous as it sounds because we are
talking about billions of positions examined by this point.  If some tiny
fraction of the null moves pruned are wrong, they can point to a wrong result.
Can anyone else think of an explanation as to why a 1 ply inferior child record
should improve the parent result (perhaps a bug?)  I do know that I have seen
this happen time and time again.
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