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Subject: Re: Null move window?

Author: John Stanback

Date: 17:55:31 06/29/99

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On June 28, 1999 at 08:56:53, Inmann Werner wrote:

I use a window of (beta-1,beta) for null move searches and
it gives me a little speedup in Zarkov.  Of course, don't
forget to change the window to reflect the correct side to
move, ie the window becomes (-beta,1-beta) from the opponent's
point of view.

John


>I use Null Move now for one year and works fine.
>I make the null move and call alpha-beta with (alpha,beta,distance-3).
>
>Now I read, and it seems logical to me, that (beta-1,beta) would be enough. I
>tried it and everything slowed down (tree bigger!)... Oops.
>
>I tried to figue out why, and think now, it is because of the hash tables.
>During the null move, only beta-1,beta is searched and stuffed in, and so i get
>later less "finds" in hash table(the bounds say no for fails). That was, what i
>figured out. Surely, this only happens in PV changing, cause there I have a more
>open window.
>Normally, entrys in hash with null moves should have other hashpositions than if
>no null move occured, and therefore the behaviour is strange.
>
>If I make a null move for white I change the hashadress with a special hashcode,
>and if it is a black nullmove I use another code. Is this normal?, or do other
>programmers do it another way?
>
>Werner



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