Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 05:48:36 06/30/99
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On June 30, 1999 at 05:43:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On June 30, 1999 at 05:34:06, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On June 30, 1999 at 03:22:01, Brett Clark wrote: >> >>>From the Chessbase website: >>> >>>"Fritz saved the day for the computers with a brilliant win against the Ivan >>>Sokolov. The 2620 GM played a novelty which he had prepared together with Ulf >>>Andersson and Jan Timman for the latter’s match against Garry Kasparov last >>>year. Unfortunately Fritz completely refuted the idea with some masterful >>>tactical strokes which stunned Sokolov and forced him to resign in 22 moves." >>> >>>Someone help me out here. I'm a 1300 patzer, so I don't know if this is true or >>>not. I recall reading some posts that Sokolov just made a bad mistake, and >>>Fritz really didn't do anything worthy of praise. I'd like to hear some >>>opinions on the Chessbase spin doctor's version of the win. >> >>People meant to the tactical mistake at move 17. >> >>I think that Fritz helped sokolov to do the bad mistake. >>I think that sokolov did a bad mistake when he did not use computer program in >>his preperation and was not prepared to 13.Bh6. >>Another computer program and not only Fritz can find 13.Bh6 easily with >>advantage for white. >> >>I am not sure if 13.Bh6 is winning but I read that this was the opinion of a GM. >>and if this is the case then the mistake of sokolov at move 17 only caused the >>game to be shorter but did not change the result. >> >>Sokolov lost in 22 moves because of a bad mistake in move 17 but I am not sure >>if he could save the game after move 13 of Fritz. >> >>Uri > >I was there life, just 1 metre away from Sokolov. >Before the game Sokolov thought very long. > >He definitely didn't use something he prepared. Move 11 of black >is a clear and obvious blunder. Bh6 is not easy to find, and was >probably missed by Sokolov when playing his 11th move, but he >definitely didn't make the impression that he prepared it. > >Only anand can play this losing line against anyone. > >I consider this whole openings idea with black completely suicidal. >Look at the facts: > >white has 1 open file. White has more space. White just needs to >develop and put pressure and profit from tactical mistakes of black. >When black survives it tactical and doesn't make a big mistake then >white just need to run with its kingside pawns. > >Strategical very easy. Any program plays there at a very high level, >i wouldn't want to call it 3000 level, but definitely super-GM level. > >That Anand did survive that against fritz and even managed to win, >only demonstrates the high level of the absolute world top. > >Personally i don't give a penny for someone playing this with black >against a computer. I take bets 1 to 100 at the ICC server in this line. >It's in my programs book, and against humans always plays 1.e4... > >Greetings, >Vincent Yes, but 7.-Ne4! is worth more than one try! Here 8.Qxd8 seems to be a positional mistake! Greetings Sune
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