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Subject: Re: Hiarcs v Fritz opening books

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 16:09:17 06/30/99

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On June 30, 1999 at 16:08:11, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On June 30, 1999 at 13:32:18, Chuck wrote:
>
>>On June 30, 1999 at 12:33:37, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On June 30, 1999 at 12:23:41, eric guttenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>A couple of recent posts have suggested that H7.32's opening book contains
>>>>a high number of seriously defective lines which may have contributed to
>>>>its negative score versus F5.32 in Jim Walker's autoplay games reported here
>>>>recently.
>>>>Is there in fact a significant quality gap between the opening lines played
>>>>out of F5.32 and H7.32 in their original opening books?
>>>>I am just trying to make some sense out or the highly coflicting results
>>>>between these two programs.  It is almost enough to make me go out and buy
>>>>a second computer system to run some tests myself, but then my wife would
>>>>probably be facing homocide charges...
>>>>
>>>>eric
>>>
>>>Oh, these problems can be solved by therapy or something! At least we know
>>>that Hiarcs MUST play with "tournamentbook" on!
>>>
>>
>>>Greetings!
>>>Sune
>>
>>IMO Fritz has the best opening book of all the programs (with the possible
>>exception of Junior and Nimzo, which I don't have). I have NEVER seen Fritz
>>come out of book in a bad position. Fritz probably scores alot of points in
>>the SSDF, especially against older programs, before it even begins calculating.
>
>-----------
>Hi Hiarcs7.32 Owners!
>  My post from last night in regards to 2 games and one was a Sicilian was about
>this very thing. My Hiarcs7.32 never gone into these bogus lines and actually
>showed a decent plus in the one opening and the other, equality!
>  I think who ever is getting messed up opening lines from Hiarcs should try and
>Re-set the Opening tree! There were other opening lines in __________________________________________________________

Hello Terry,

What do you mean reset the tree? You copy the opening book tree onto the hard
drive and that should be all you need to do. I have seen Hiarcs 7.32 play bad
openings because it is part of the book moves and at tournament level. I agree
with the post above about Fritz F5 Book CTG being better than Hiarcs. I think
the opening book in Hiarcs allows too much variety. I have examples of only
about 8 moves and Hiarcs position is severely weakened - a BIG passed pawn in
the center! The problem, I believe, is there are too many variations allowed. I
think the Fritz book is more limited and plays openings better suited for
Fritz's playing style.
I do not consider the opening book in Hiarcs to be of tournament level - just my
opinion.

Regards,
Mel
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openings that were
>complained about and when i ran it through my Hiarcs7.32 it was fine.
>  Best regards,
> Terry Ripple



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