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Subject: Re: What are the results between top ICC programs?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:25:12 07/01/99

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On July 01, 1999 at 12:18:30, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 01, 1999 at 11:55:46, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 01, 1999 at 10:41:28, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I am interested to know results between top ICC programs at standard time
>>>control(if possible 2 hours/40) from the last 2 monthes.
>>>
>>>I guess that the top ICC programs include Ferret,Shredder,Ban,Crafty.
>>>Is it possible to get the games between these programs in ICC?
>>>
>>>Which hardware do they use in ICC?
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>There is no such thing as 40 moves in 2 hours on ICC, and you will find very
>>very few games at time controls approximating that.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>I assumed that there is because otherwise I do not understand what is the reason
>that Bob hyatt said that he is sure that there is at least one program that is
>better than shredder and that he assumed that shredder is a good program but not
>the best.
>
>We have no data to assume that shredder was lucky.
>
>It is also possible that shredder prepared better for the tournament time
>control games.
>
>Uri


Quite simple...  I have watched shredder and Ferret play for many months.  They
are probably in the same ballpark quality-wise.  Except that Ferret is 3x faster
with the parallel search.  In a match, I'd personally pick ferret, and the
longer the match, the more I'd be willing to bet, because 3x speed advantage
is way-non-trivial...

That was my point.  Not that Shredder is 'bad' at all.  Just that Ferret is just
as good on equal hardware (IMHO) and with 3x the hardware it is _very difficult_
to handle.



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