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Subject: Re: What are the results between top ICC programs?

Author: blass uri

Date: 11:34:26 07/01/99

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On July 01, 1999 at 14:25:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 01, 1999 at 12:18:30, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 01, 1999 at 11:55:46, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On July 01, 1999 at 10:41:28, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am interested to know results between top ICC programs at standard time
>>>>control(if possible 2 hours/40) from the last 2 monthes.
>>>>
>>>>I guess that the top ICC programs include Ferret,Shredder,Ban,Crafty.
>>>>Is it possible to get the games between these programs in ICC?
>>>>
>>>>Which hardware do they use in ICC?
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>There is no such thing as 40 moves in 2 hours on ICC, and you will find very
>>>very few games at time controls approximating that.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>
>>I assumed that there is because otherwise I do not understand what is the reason
>>that Bob hyatt said that he is sure that there is at least one program that is
>>better than shredder and that he assumed that shredder is a good program but not
>>the best.
>>
>>We have no data to assume that shredder was lucky.
>>
>>It is also possible that shredder prepared better for the tournament time
>>control games.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Quite simple...  I have watched shredder and Ferret play for many months.  They
>are probably in the same ballpark quality-wise.  Except that Ferret is 3x faster
>with the parallel search.  In a match, I'd personally pick ferret, and the
>longer the match, the more I'd be willing to bet, because 3x speed advantage
>is way-non-trivial...
>
>That was my point.  Not that Shredder is 'bad' at all.  Just that Ferret is just
>as good on equal hardware (IMHO) and with 3x the hardware it is _very difficult_
>to handle.

I do not agree that you can know from watching program playing at fast time
control what will happen at tournament time control.

The only way to know is to play games at tournament time control.

I read that the tester of shredder said about the results against commercial
programs that longer time control help shredder.

Uri

Uri



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