Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 12:00:09 07/01/99
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On July 01, 1999 at 10:34:03, Terry Ripple wrote: >On June 30, 1999 at 19:09:17, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On June 30, 1999 at 16:08:11, Terry Ripple wrote: >> >>>On June 30, 1999 at 13:32:18, Chuck wrote: >>> >>>>On June 30, 1999 at 12:33:37, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 30, 1999 at 12:23:41, eric guttenberg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>A couple of recent posts have suggested that H7.32's opening book contains >>>>>>a high number of seriously defective lines which may have contributed to >>>>>>its negative score versus F5.32 in Jim Walker's autoplay games reported here >>>>>>recently. >>>>>>Is there in fact a significant quality gap between the opening lines played >>>>>>out of F5.32 and H7.32 in their original opening books? >>>>>>I am just trying to make some sense out or the highly coflicting results >>>>>>between these two programs. It is almost enough to make me go out and buy >>>>>>a second computer system to run some tests myself, but then my wife would >>>>>>probably be facing homocide charges... >>>>>> >>>>>>eric >>>>> >>>>>Oh, these problems can be solved by therapy or something! At least we know >>>>>that Hiarcs MUST play with "tournamentbook" on! >>>>> >>>> >>>>>Greetings! >>>>>Sune >>>> >>>>IMO Fritz has the best opening book of all the programs (with the possible >>>>exception of Junior and Nimzo, which I don't have). I have NEVER seen Fritz >>>>come out of book in a bad position. Fritz probably scores alot of points in >>>>the SSDF, especially against older programs, before it even begins calculating. >>> >>>----------- >>>Hi Hiarcs7.32 Owners! >>> My post from last night in regards to 2 games and one was a Sicilian was about >>>this very thing. My Hiarcs7.32 never gone into these bogus lines and actually >>>showed a decent plus in the one opening and the other, equality! >>> I think who ever is getting messed up opening lines from Hiarcs should try and >>>Re-set the Opening tree! There were other opening lines in __________________________________________________________ >> >>Hello Terry, >> >>What do you mean reset the tree? You copy the opening book tree onto the hard >>drive and that should be all you need to do. I have seen Hiarcs 7.32 play bad >>openings because it is part of the book moves and at tournament level. I agree >>with the post above about Fritz F5 Book CTG being better than Hiarcs. I think >>the opening book in Hiarcs allows too much variety. I have examples of only >>about 8 moves and Hiarcs position is severely weakened - a BIG passed pawn in >>the center! The problem, I believe, is there are too many variations allowed. I >>think the Fritz book is more limited and plays openings better suited for >>Fritz's playing style. >>I do not consider the opening book in Hiarcs to be of tournament level - just my >>opinion. >> >>Regards, >>Mel >------------- > >Hi Mel, The Variety is greatly minimized in Tournament Book mode and dont forget >that it has a learning feature in its book as you continue playing with it the >opening choices in its book diminish as i found out that it would no longer play >b3 and b4 as an example! >------ >Terry >>__________________________________________________________ >> >>openings that were >>>complained about and when i ran it through my Hiarcs7.32 it was fine. >>> Best regards, >>> Terry Ripple Hello Terry, I always use the tournament book for Hiarcs; and yet, I have two excellent examples of Hiarcs playing a lousy Sicilian and a lousy Bishop's opening. This has nothing to do with b3, g3 or x3!! Regards, Mel
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