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Subject: Re: Bob Hyatt, shredder did not play at standard time control at Icc

Author: James Robertson

Date: 15:26:28 07/01/99

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On July 01, 1999 at 15:45:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 01, 1999 at 14:59:47, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 1999 at 14:28:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 1999 at 11:43:14, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 11:02:32, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 10:41:28, blass uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am interested to know results between top ICC programs at standard time
>>>>>>control(if possible 2 hours/40) from the last 2 monthes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess that the top ICC programs include Ferret,Shredder,Ban,Crafty.
>>>>>>Is it possible to get the games between these programs in ICC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>    To get those games log in to icc and use its database search functions.
>>>>> Command 'search crafty ban standard' is example of what you want to do.
>>>>> Then you can examine every found game with command 'examine ', where
>>>>>you replace  with actual number listed by the search output.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Which hardware do they use in ICC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually hardware used is listed in finger notes. 'fi ban' for example.
>>>>> I hope that helps - Andrew.
>>>>
>>>>I cannot use the search command because I am a guest and did not register.
>>>>
>>>>I tried fi shredder and I found that the hardware for shredder is only p333
>>>>and that it did not play standard time control so  there is no information from
>>>>ICC to get information about the level of shredder on p550 at tournament time
>>>>control.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>You can't tell what shredder has played by 'fingering it'.  If you do a "history
>>>shredder" you can see the last 20 games.  But not the previous several hundred.
>>>
>>>In reasonable length games (non-bullet, but with increments) you can get a
>>>pretty good feel for how two programs play by watching them. At least I can
>>>pretty well figure out 'quality'.  IE if a program plays good moves but loses
>>>tactically, that is one thing.  If it plays bad moves and wins tactically, that
>>>is something else.  I have learned over the years to differentiate between the
>>>two.  And a program that plays 'good' moves is generally better.  And when you
>>>watch Ferret, you simply don't see any 'ugly' moves, nor do you see many weak
>>>moves...
>>
>>If you finger Shredder, it has not played a single standard game rated.
>>
>>James
>
>
>That wasn't the question.  The question was "has it played any standard games"
>and you can't answer that with a finger.  Because they don't show up in the
>rating game count...

It may have played some unrated standard games true, but no rated standard
games.

James



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