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Subject: Re: Fritz Demonstrates World Championship Level Play at Game/30!!!!!

Author: Mark Young

Date: 16:50:51 07/01/99

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On July 01, 1999 at 14:18:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 01, 1999 at 13:43:04, odell hall wrote:
>
>>This is a weird newgroup, !! The Biggest event in computer chess history just
>>took place, yet everyone is silent!! Wake up people!  Promgrammers should be
>>celebrating at their achievement. I am not even a programmer but I am excited.
>
>
>This is _old_ news...  it has happened so many times.  So what is to jump up
>and down about.  This became pretty obvious 2 years ago, that at game/25 or
>game/30, the computers are very difficult to stop.  We played one round-robin
>event on chess.net with 4 computers and 4 GM players, the GM's included Roman,
>Larry Christiansen, Ivanov, and one 'synthetic' player made up of two GM
>players that each played some of the games (scheduling problems).
>
>All four computers finished ahead of all 4 GM players.  We had another such
>event later with a double-round-robin.  Same result, different computers,
>different humans (some were the same).
>
>When computers first started beating GM's at blitz (late 1970's and early 80's)
>it was news.  It became passe'.  The same thing has happened for game/25 and
>game/30.  When it finally happens at 40/2hr games, that will be something new
>to get excited about...

You are right on the money in this post. This is old news for computers, and I
would expect a first place finish for most good programs. Unless the online
games with the GMs and IMs at the faster time controls are all bogus, because
the GM and IM did not care about the games. The results can and should be this
against the best players in the world at this time control.



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