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Subject: Re: Hiarcs v Fritz opening books

Author: Sarah Bird

Date: 06:02:26 07/02/99

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On July 02, 1999 at 02:00:11, Steve Lopez wrote:

>On July 01, 1999 at 22:53:19, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>
>>The move order for the Bishop's opening is:
>>
>>1.e4...e5  2.Bc4...Nf6  3.Nf3...Nxe4  4.Nc3...Nxc3  5.dxc3...f6 (yes f6).
>>6.Nh4...g6  7.f4...c6  8.f5...d5  9.fxg6
>>
>>Okay, Steve, any comments?
>>
>>Mel
>
>The original post had 9.f6, which is clearly illegal.
>
>The line through 8...d5 *is* in Hiarcs' opening book.
>
>I didn't create the opening book, so take my response with a *pillar* of salt.
>Historically, there are three games I found in which the line through 8.f5 was
>played. Statistically, Black scores 67% in this line (two wins, one loss).
>
>However, the line was probably put in the book so that Hiarcs knows what to play
>as *Black* in this line. According to the book probabilities, Hiarcs has equal
>chances of playing 3.Nf3 or 3.d4 as White. The d4 gambit line should probably
>have been weighted a bit higher than the alternative. In the 3.Nf3 line we're
>discussing, 6.0-0 would have been better than 6.Nh4 (statistically speaking).
>
>I've not yet seen any chess program in which the opening book didn't have a few
>"holes" (in fact, I once covered this in T-Notes last fall); we usually hear
>about them pretty quickly after a program's release. This would appear to be one
>such case. My guess is that the person who created the book was more concerned
>about what Hiarcs should play as Black that he forgot to cover White in this
>line.
>
>Remember, though, that this *is* just a surmise on my part.
>
>Your Sicilian line was address in another thread (it's down toward the bottom of
>the page -- something about Fritz in 60' games).
>
>-- Steve Lopez

An interesting line, clearly bad for white. To myself all whites moves after
3.Nf3 seem suspect. In my Hiarcs book it already has 4. Nc3 as -9 and 4. d4
probability as 100% this naturally with learning enabled.
Sarah.






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