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Subject: Re: Fritz, next year.

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 14:30:19 07/02/99

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On July 02, 1999 at 16:03:19, KarinsDad wrote:

>On July 02, 1999 at 14:07:26, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>
>>
>>	I see nothing unfair in using a new version for an event a previous version
>>qualified for. It would be unfair to have exterior human (or computer) help
>>during the games.
>
>Why? If we use your definition, then Kasparov used a Fritz 5 and 5.32 program to
>improve himself the last few years. Hence, he should be allowed to play advanced
>chess with Fritz 7 at his side in next years Giants tournament since it is the
>Kasparov/Fritz team that helped him qualify for this years Giants tournament.

	Kasparow is not allowed to get exterior help in regular tournament games.
Preparation is different from actual playing.
	For the same reason, Fritz or any other program should not receive help from
its team during the games; but of course the team should be allowed to do any
kind of preparation between rounds and between tournaments.

> It
>all comes down to where you draw the line. Why should the program have a team
>and the individual player not have a team?
>

	Because humans and computers are different.

>>	After all, Fritz qualified for this Frakfurt Masters by winning the Ordix Open
>>last year, and surely it was an older version without multi-procesing
>>capabilities.
>>	What is important to me is that the program was developed by the same team.
>>I.e. for me, the "team" qualified, not the "program/hardware".
>
>Yes, but the Fritz "team" did not build the 256 processor system that Fritz 7
>may be running on next year. So you are allowing the Fritz "team" to consist of
>thousands or tens of thousands of people from the electrical company to the
>hardware manufacturers and it is a different set of thousands of people on the
>Fritz "team" than the thousands who were needed to produce Fritz 6 on the
>hardware that it ran on. So, the "team" (especially the part of the team that
>creates the hardware) will be changing, but that is considered fair. Again, it
>is a matter of differences between programs and people where they are being
>considered the same.
>

	I strongly disagree. The hardware Fritz uses is general purpose. The people who
designed it were not thinking in Fritz performance. I think it should be clear
who the Fritz team are.
	And after all, it is up to the organisers and not to us to decide who is going
to play in the next Frankfurt Giants.

>KarinsDad :)
>
>>José.



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