Author: James Robertson
Date: 15:32:18 07/02/99
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On July 02, 1999 at 17:02:09, Roger D Davis wrote: >I don't think the field will shrink...I think it will expand because it will be >possible for computers to play in genuinely different styles without making >mistakes obvious even to master level players (didn't say grandmaster level >players). You can imagine a style that destroys you tactically by following >lines especially dangerous to humans, another one that presents you with shallow >tactical threats but makes you run out of time, another one that just prolongs >the game indefinitely without ever doing anything, and so on. > >Roger Computers are at that point now. I think it is not difficult to make programs play in different styles; take for example CST. But in 5-10 years? In top level competitions? Computers will be so much better there will be no contest. It will be ludicrous to have the 'greatest humans on earth' playing a deliberately weakened baby chess program just so they have a chance to not get clobbered. Face it. Chess GMs are considered to be above average intelligence, because most people have tried chess and found it _hard_. There is a 'mystique' attached to a good chess player; they can outwit a machine, they have unusual ability to grasp spatial stuff, etc. etc. The moment a computer proves chess is 'solvable', much of that 'geniousness' is gone, and the sport of chess will have been struck a serious blow. This is perhaps bleak, but I do think it is the future. James > > >On July 02, 1999 at 14:28:47, James Robertson wrote: > >>On July 02, 1999 at 14:16:50, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>I see the change in strategy by the top GM's in the Frankfurt Masters tournament >>>as an admission that they can no longer compete with Fritz on the "up and up". >>>Resorting to anticomputer strategy/tactics by the worlds best chess players is >>>the first signal that the end is near. Computer domination is just around the >>>corner. >>>Jim Walker >> >>Of course it is. Once computers do dominate, the public will lose interest in >>them, and I think the computer chess field will shrink to just a few of us >>computer nerds. It is ironic that the people who want so hard for computers to >>dominate as quickly as possible are actually just moving the date forward when >>computers are unable to interest the average chess player. People used to holler >>and cheer when there were airplane - auto races. No such thing now, and computer >>chess will go the same way. :( >> >>James
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