Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 16:05:13 07/02/99
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On July 01, 1999 at 21:34:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 01, 1999 at 18:26:28, James Robertson wrote: > >>On July 01, 1999 at 15:45:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 01, 1999 at 14:59:47, James Robertson wrote: >>> >>>>On July 01, 1999 at 14:28:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 11:43:14, blass uri wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 11:02:32, Andrew Dados wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 10:41:28, blass uri wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I am interested to know results between top ICC programs at standard time >>>>>>>>control(if possible 2 hours/40) from the last 2 monthes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I guess that the top ICC programs include Ferret,Shredder,Ban,Crafty. >>>>>>>>Is it possible to get the games between these programs in ICC? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get those games log in to icc and use its database search functions. >>>>>>> Command 'search crafty ban standard' is example of what you want to do. >>>>>>> Then you can examine every found game with command 'examine ', where >>>>>>>you replace with actual number listed by the search output. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Which hardware do they use in ICC? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Usually hardware used is listed in finger notes. 'fi ban' for example. >>>>>>> I hope that helps - Andrew. >>>>>> >>>>>>I cannot use the search command because I am a guest and did not register. >>>>>> >>>>>>I tried fi shredder and I found that the hardware for shredder is only p333 >>>>>>and that it did not play standard time control so there is no information from >>>>>>ICC to get information about the level of shredder on p550 at tournament time >>>>>>control. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You can't tell what shredder has played by 'fingering it'. If you do a "history >>>>>shredder" you can see the last 20 games. But not the previous several hundred. >>>>> >>>>>In reasonable length games (non-bullet, but with increments) you can get a >>>>>pretty good feel for how two programs play by watching them. At least I can >>>>>pretty well figure out 'quality'. IE if a program plays good moves but loses >>>>>tactically, that is one thing. If it plays bad moves and wins tactically, that >>>>>is something else. I have learned over the years to differentiate between the >>>>>two. And a program that plays 'good' moves is generally better. And when you >>>>>watch Ferret, you simply don't see any 'ugly' moves, nor do you see many weak >>>>>moves... >>>> >>>>If you finger Shredder, it has not played a single standard game rated. >>>> >>>>James >>> >>> >>>That wasn't the question. The question was "has it played any standard games" >>>and you can't answer that with a finger. Because they don't show up in the >>>rating game count... >> >>It may have played some unrated standard games true, but no rated standard >>games. >> >>James > > >Don't know about 'shredder', but Crafty has played quite a few non-rated >standard games vs GMs logged in as guests. As they want to remain totally >anonymous. And I as asked to not disclose the games they played, which I do >my best to honor since I want them to continue 'helping' like that. A lot of libraries at ICC have gone. Many games i can't find anymore using 'search'. ICC must have had last year quite some crashes. Greetings, Vincent
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