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Subject: Re: Proposal for getting more profit from our top-notch programs

Author: walter irvin

Date: 05:00:00 07/03/99

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On July 03, 1999 at 01:19:18, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>On July 02, 1999 at 21:43:11, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>I am sure almost all guys here share with me the following experience: you do
>>not get enough profit and enjoyment from the top-notch programs you already have
>>and not even know exactly how many things they can do for you because you are
>>thinking too much about those you still do not have or even do not exist yet.
>>Yesterday I realized how many times I have not loaded and played Rebel 10 because
>>of that, so I played two games in a row at 40/60 on my fastest computer, an
>>Armada 266, 98 Mb Ram. Rebel played with Anti-GM -anti patzer would fit better
>>for me-, combination on, EOC in smart mode, tournament book, learning on and in
>>each game kicked my ass at around the 30ยบ move phase, where I was between 0,5
>>and 1,12 points behind. The fact is that I have forgotten how good Rebel is, how
>>many things it can do for me, etc. And the reason is the time I have lost playing
>>new freeware programs, testing, pitting one program against the other, etc.
>>I am sure  we could get a lot more fun if our best games -lost or won- could be
>>seen here and analyzed publicly for one or more Fide or IM that I know are
>>part of this club. It could be a way to improve our game AND to see the progress
>>of chess computer against humans at decent time, not hust a game in 30 minutes or
>>so. The my question is: are you, FM or IM players here, interested in looking at
>>the most interesting game of the month played by someone here and doing an
>>analysis of it and are you, members of this site, interested in delivering what
>>you consider your best game -lost or won, who cares- for that exercize? If this
>>kind of thing could be done, we could get not only a lot of fun, but some chess
>>education and we would produce another source for rating chess programs in the
>>decisive aspect of game played against the human race.
>>What do you think?
>>Fernando
>
>Fernando,
>
>We guys are always looking for a prettier woman, a faster car or a prettier,
>faster and smarter chess computer.  Rebel 10 is an excellent program but is
>eclipsed by Hiarcs 7.32  and Fritz 6.x .  In turn these programs will be fondly
>remembered as childs' play in another ten years.
>
>Ed Schroder is already doing his GM of the month.  I think that your idea has
>merit.  I submitted one of my games against Hiarcs 6 on the 20th of May, 1999
>and it was ignored.  So, we basically have the mindset--"Who the hell is he and
>why should we think of his game as having any value".  Now, if Karpov, Fischer
>or Kasparov were to put up a game that they played against Rebel or Fritz then
>you would have countless responses.  It is human nature to want to associate
>with "winners" and those who do feel good about themselves.  We all know of "the
>Emperors' clothes"  and the fact that if a person in authority says something
>then it must be true.
>
>In short, yes, you have a good idea but will the egos of this place allow it?
>
>
>Tim Frohlick

you are not just right, you are 100% right.



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