Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 11:29:44 07/03/99
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On July 03, 1999 at 08:26:46, James T. Walker wrote: >On July 03, 1999 at 00:28:59, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On July 02, 1999 at 23:42:15, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On July 02, 1999 at 22:55:21, Steve Lopez wrote: >>> >>>>On July 02, 1999 at 20:45:09, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Have you got it now? :-)))) >>>> >>>>That's the beauty of the Internet, man -- it allows one to make an ass of >>>>oneself worldwide in a matter of seconds. :-D >>>> >>>>-- Steve Lopez >>> >>>Hello Steve, >>>I also have Hiarcs 7.32. I'm very happy with the program including the opening >>>book. However, if you play the moves Mel suggest, here is the problem: It's >>>true that exf6 e.p. is in the book. So next you play Nd6+ and Hiarcs starts >>>thinking since it's out of book and plays Bxd6. After playing Bxd6 though, you >>>can now click the red backup arrow below the board and guess what shows up in >>>the book moves window, "9...Bxd6 no" in red! So it appears it's in the book as >>>a move not to make and following this guidline it does not make this "book move" >>>but when thinking on it's own it selects this move. >> >>Hello Jim >> >>Glad to see someone finally found out I was correct about that. I guess Mr. >>Lopez didn't make the effort to verify what I was talking about since he was so >>anxious to say I was wrong. We argued about that so much and I got so frustrated >>I had to visit my psychiatrist three times to get my head screwed back on. :) Oh >>well, that's life. By the way, that Bxd6 thing seems like a bug in the program. >>First of all, if Hiarcs didn't play Bxd6, it wouldn't be able to castle and its >>position would not be very good. The thing is if instead of playing f5 it should >>have played Qc7 which is in the tree as the favorite move with I believe 80% and >>f5 something like 18%. So it was a poor choice to play such a move which by the >>way is in the book. Qc7 instead of f5 would without question be the proper move. >>Oh, and by the time I get around to eliminating all the bad lines, I think there >>will be Hiarcs 8.32 and Fritz 6.32 to consider. :-) >> >>Regards, >>Mel >*************** >Hello again Mel, >One last note. The move is in the book as "no" meaning it _____________________________________________________ Hello Jim, I was referring above to f5. That move is in the book. Instead of playing f5, Hiarcs should have played Qc7. The weights in the tree assign Qc7 at 80% and f5 at about 18%. Now, this is 40/2 tournament level, and while f5 is playable - it is not the best move! Just take a look at the position after the moves are played out. How do you like my pawn at d6 and Hiarcs pawn at d7? His White Bishop is not very effective - at this point I would liken it to the French where you have the so-called bad Bishop. Take a good look at the position at this point and tell me if you think Hiarcs made the correct move f5 instead of Qc7? I say f5 should not be in the opening book. Just my humble opinion of course. What do you think? Regards, Mel ___________________________________ will not play the >move because it's either bad or the program does not understand it. This only >stops the program from playing the move out of book. It does not stop the >program from playing the move while thinking. Apparently this is because they >don't prohibit the "Bad" moves from being considered with the normal search. >Jim Walker >************** >>>By the way, my Hiarcs did play some 1 b4, 1b3, 1 g3 moves when new, but after >>>losing most of them it hasn't played any of those opening move in the last 150 >>>games. So my advice to Mel is to beat it when it plays bad lines and it will >>>learn it's lesson and stop playing them. :-) >>>Jim Walker
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