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Subject: Re: Calling Steve Lopez, Terry Cummings, & Other Hiarcs Owners

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 01:15:38 07/05/99

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On July 04, 1999 at 14:24:50, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On July 03, 1999 at 05:14:14, Terry Ripple wrote:
>
>>On July 02, 1999 at 23:42:15, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On July 02, 1999 at 22:55:21, Steve Lopez wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 02, 1999 at 20:45:09, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you got it now? :-))))
>>>>
>>>>That's the beauty of the Internet, man -- it allows one to make an ass of
>>>>oneself worldwide in a matter of seconds. :-D
>>>>
>>>>-- Steve Lopez
>>>
>>>Hello Steve,
>>>I also have Hiarcs 7.32.  I'm very happy with the program including the opening
>>>book.  However, if you play the moves Mel suggest, here is the problem:  It's
>>>true that exf6 e.p. is in the book. So next you play Nd6+ and Hiarcs starts
>>>thinking since it's out of book and plays Bxd6.  After playing Bxd6 though, you
>>>can now click the red backup arrow below the board and guess what shows up in
>>>the book moves window, "9...Bxd6 no" in red!  So it appears it's in the book as
>>>a move not to make and following this guidline it does not make this "book move"
>>>but when thinking on it's own it selects this move.
>>>By the way, my Hiarcs did play some 1 b4, 1b3, 1 g3 moves when new, but after
>>>losing most of them it hasn't played any of those opening move in the last 150
>>>games.  So my advice to Mel is to beat it when it plays bad lines and it will
>>>learn it's lesson and stop playing them. :-)
>>>Jim Walker
>>
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>>Hi Jim and Mel,
>>  It`s pretty hard to beat Hiarcs even if it`s up .50 in the position which i
>>don`t see such a big advantage for our level of play anyway!
>>  He just needs to play the engine vrs. engine matches several good games and
>>that also will eliminate the weaker lines of play and weaker openings etc.
>
>Hello Terry,
>
>The point of exposing bad lines is in the hope the programmer will be notified
>and the next version will be improved. At least that is my main purpose for
>posting the Sicilian. That f5 move is in the book but weighted at 18% when
>compared to Qc7 at 80%. Therefore, Qc7 was the best move and should have been
>played, and would have been played if f5 was not in the book. Remember, this is
>tournament book we are talking about. And yes, f5 is playable but it is not the
>best move! 80% - 18% says an awful lot don't you think?

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Hi Mel,
  I definitly agree on this point! Maybe the idea of the programmer was to give
us a little variety in the opening and he knew that as soon as we lost to Hiarcs
in that weaker line (about 90%+), then we would no longer have to play this line
due to the wonderful "learning feature" of the program! Plus, the nice feature
can be turned off or tree re-set and we can even go in tree and change this
percentage of a weaker line if we want to still play the line but play it less
frequently!
---------
Terry
>
>Mel
>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Terry



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