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Subject: Re: Fritz Demonstrates World Championship Level Play at Game/30!!!!!

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 10:58:52 07/05/99

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On July 04, 1999 at 12:20:33, James T. Walker wrote:

>On July 01, 1999 at 17:23:03, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 1999 at 16:50:59, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On July 01, 1999 at 15:21:02, James Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 01, 1999 at 13:43:04, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is a weird newgroup, !! The Biggest event in computer chess history just
>>>>>took place, yet everyone is silent!! Wake up people!  Promgrammers should be
>>>>>celebrating at their achievement. I am not even a programmer but I am excited.
>>>>
>>>>G/25. And there is no World Championship at G/25. And we cannot deduce how Fritz
>>>>would fare against Kasparov, Anand, or Kramnik; they are all 50-150 points
>>>>higher than the masters. And not a SINGLE world championship finalist is playing
>>>>in the masters division!
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok james I hear what you are saying! But you have to admit this is quite a
>>>sensational result for fritz, something that cannot be ingored, when
>>>consideredring the strength of programs at this time control.
>>
>>The following is what Fritz is playing on. Since Siemens is sponsering the
>>event, you can bet that it is the top end of this and not the bottom end. If so,
>>8 processors will make this tougher than the Fritz that played at Paderborn
>>(which I believe was on 4 processors). If you take that into account, it is
>>probably equilvalent to running Fritz on a single processor system at about G150
>>instead of G25. Effectively, the increases in speed due to the multi-processor
>>systems give the programs more "time" to search, and so they are effectively
>>playing at slower tournament times (relative to those same programs on single
>>processor systems). No wonder Fritz is dropping the GMs.
>>
>>
>>
>>System board
>>Microprocessor Intel Pentium II Xeon
>>PRIMERGY 870-40 max. 4 processors,
>>PRIMERGY 870-80 max. 8 processors (from end of 98)
>>Data width 64-bit internal and external
>>Clock rate cache-bus/host bus 400/100, 450/100 MHz
>>Second-level cache integrated 512 Kbyte, 1 Mbyte or
>>2 Mbyte (ab 450 MHz) with ECC
>>RAM with EDC 128 Mbyte to max. 8 Gbyte
>>Flash-EPROM BIOS update with FD or LAN possible
>>
><snip>
>>KarinsDad :)
>
>Hello KarinsDad,
>The number of processores Fritz is playing on is pure speculation.

This is true. However, it is playing on a PRIMERGY 870 which defaults to 4
processors, so four is probably a fair assumption.

KarinsDad :)

  It was more
>than a year ago that Fritz played on a dual processor system but the number of
>processors it's using this year seems to be a big secret.  I have asked around
>but so far no answers.  Also, it looks like Fritz may have a bug in the
>multiprocessor operation.  The move vs Topalov 63. a7 was a definite blunder.
>It turned a victory into a draw.  Since 63 Re8 saves the win and my Fritz 5.32
>plays it instantly and never lets go I must assume it's either a bug in Fritz 6
>parallel code or some of the new "Knowledge" they gave it is faulty.  So, in my
>opinion the parallel version of Fritz6 is still in developement stages and not
>ready.  In spite of this it's performance is impressive.
>Jim Walker



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