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Subject: Re: Losing captures thrown out

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:57:14 07/09/99

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On July 09, 1999 at 11:16:39, Bas Hamstra wrote:

>Bob do you take "batteries" into account? IE if some sliders are lined up does
>swap always give the correct value? And checks? Do you allow a "swapmove" when
>the moving color leaves itsself into check?

I consider batteries, but not checks.  I think it is a non-issue because the
capture search is _full_ of errors anyway.  In many positions, the best move
is not a capture, but a quiet move that pins something instead.  So a capture-
only search has inherent error no matter what...





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>Of course chepest is to do none of that, but I have no idea how that hurts.
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>By the way I switched from incremental to normal move generation, basically to
>get better sorting, but so far the incremental version was a lot faster...
>Only doing very basic full window alpha-beta and material, no null, no
>extensions, it spends over 40% generating captures.
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>Regards,
>Bas Hamstra.
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>On July 09, 1999 at 10:54:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On July 09, 1999 at 10:07:11, Bas Hamstra wrote:
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>>>I see that some chessprograms throw losing captures (determined by the
>>>swapvalue) out of the qsearch. However is that safe? Ordering by swapvalue ok,
>>>but when you throw SwapVal<0 out you can oversee serious tactics, or not?
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>>>Thanks in advance,
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>>>Bas Hamstra.
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>>You miss some things.  But you go over 2x faster, so you get another ply
>>deeper.  And you find some things you would miss.  Which is better?  I
>>throw out losers.  Have done this basically forever, all the way back thru
>>Cray Blitz.



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