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Subject: Re: Fritz analysis fails; does your software work?

Author: walter irvin

Date: 04:14:37 07/10/99

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On July 09, 1999 at 19:39:42, Laurence Chen wrote:

>That some other guy was Tigran Petrosian.... Show some respect, he was also a
>World Champion....
>Also post the EPD position....
>Laurence

>
if the year was 1972 that some other guy was bobby fischer not tigran petrosian
i believe there match was 1969 .

>On July 09, 1999 at 18:21:07, Mark Ryan wrote:
>
>>Fritz 5.16 Autoanalysis and Blundercheck fail to detect a bad move in a famous
>>position (details below).  Using backward analysis, starting by evaluating the
>>final game position and then working back through the preceding moves, Fritz
>>does not remember its evaluations from move to move; it analyzes each move
>>without reference to its evaluation of the following move.  Therefore:
>>
>>1.  What is the point of backward analysis?  It seems to be no different from
>>on-the-spot position analysis.
>>
>>2.  Are there any programs that use backward analysis "correctly"?  That is, do
>>any programs evaluate the final position first, then analyze the preceding moves
>>using the knowledge that they have gained?
>>
>>Example:  World Championship 1972, Game One, in which the white pieces were
>>handled by the brilliant World Champion Boris Spassky, and the black pieces were
>>handled by some other guy.  Fritz correctly evaluates White as being ahead all
>>the way back from the final move to move 30, at which point it sees that black's
>>bishop is doomed.  However, when Fritz moves back to move 29, it forgets this
>>knowledge, and it does not see that the bishop is trapped; so it incorrectly
>>evaluates the position.



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