Author: Mark Young
Date: 15:40:05 07/13/99
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On July 13, 1999 at 17:07:51, Michael Fuhrmann wrote: >On July 13, 1999 at 10:42:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 13, 1999 at 10:18:02, Harald Faber wrote: >> >>>On July 13, 1999 at 10:08:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>>>Earlier tonite, Crafty was involved in a match with GM Loek van Wely on >>>>>>ICC. 5 3 time control, and crafty was winning about its normal percentage >>>>>>against him (about 80%, match was 9 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw at the point >>>>>>where the following game was played). In this game, Crafty was >>>>>>in book until move 23. As we passed move 20, I was counting pawns >>>>>>and pieces and concluded white was probably lost. At move 23, >>>>>>Crafty's first search said -4.00, and I thought aha, book learning >>>>>>to the rescue as this is dead lost. But without spoiling anything, >>>>>>this was the result. :) >>>>> >>>>>Here you see again that search depth and eval of king safety suffer. >>>>>Counting material is not always the key for winning... >>>>>The line looks forced until move #31 and instantly black blundered with >>>>>31...gxh3. However, this position is hard to play with black... >>>>> >>>> >>>>I disagree about the 'eval' issue. We had over 200 folks observing this >>>>'match'. Including 5 GM players. All thought white was totally lost. One >>>>said "now if he only doesn't make a mistake..." >>> >>>Seems to me as if they didn't take a closer look at the black king. >>> >>>>Btw, Crafty played against GMs for a long while... van Wely, followed by >>>>Roman, followed by Piket with a few Shirov's thrown in to the mix. It's >>>>current ICC rating is 3240... > > >Some may quarrel with the significance or lack thereof of ICC ratings, but I say >congratulations on passing 3187, which was Crafty's best, set in April. Is it >your opinion, Bob, that the rating jump reflects recent improvements to the >program, or is it due more to normal variation in ratings? ICC ratings are meaningless outside of ICC, but Crafty at least plays a larger pool of players in ICC, and that makes it more significant in ICC then other high ratings I have seen generated in ICC. > > >>> >>>ICC ratings are exaggerating. And most of the games are played like this one >>>with short time controls. It is well known that programs are almost unbeatable >>>at g/5, even with increment. >>>And Crafty is known to be the most dangerous opponent, maybe Ferret is a bit >>>stronger. >> >> >>I think at blitz, Ferret is the opponent I would _least_ prefer to have across >>the board... >> >>It is _very_ dangerous.
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