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Subject: Re: 1989 opinion poll and idea for new poll question

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 15:05:41 07/15/99

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On July 15, 1999 at 17:31:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 15, 1999 at 00:27:47, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>>On July 14, 1999 at 16:25:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 14, 1999 at 15:13:59, Peter Hegger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello
>>>>In 1989, at the world computer chess championship in Edmonton, David Levy asked
>>>>participants:
>>>>"In what year do you think a chess program will be able to defeat the human
>>>>world champion?"
>>>>Here are the answers.
>>>>Year    Names
>>>>1992    Gyula Horvath, Monty Newborn
>>>>1993    John McCarthy
>>>>1994    Hans Berliner, Marty Hirsch, Feng-hsuing Hsu
>>>>1995    Murray Campbell, Larry Kaufmann, David Kittinger, Danny Kopec, Donald
>>>>       Mitchie, David Slate, Mike Valvo
>>>>1997    John Stanbeck
>>>>1998    Kevin O'connell
>>>>1999    Ed Felton, Tom Pronk, Sidney Samole, Claude Shannon, Jos Uiterwijk
>>>>2000    Robert Hyatt, GM Kevin Spraggett, Victor Vikhrev, Jaap van den Herik
>>>>2001    Jurg Nivergelt, Mark Taylor
>>>>2002    IM Julio Kaplan
>>>>2005    Richard Lang, Pierre Nolet, Ard van Bergen
>>>>2008    Harry Nelson
>>>>2010    Don Dailey, Ossi Weiner
>>>>2011    Lars Hjorth
>>>>2013    Tony Scherzer
>>>>2014    David Levy
>>>>2020    Tony Marsland
>>>>2025    Dap Hartmann
>>>>2030    Franz Morsch
>>>>2040    Jonathan Schaeffer
>>>>2050    Harm Bakker
>>>>2056    Helmut Horacek
>>>>NEVER   David Cahlander
>>>>
>>>>The mean average of these predictions is the year 2005.
>>>>I thought it might be interesting to formulate a new opinion poll question
>>>>asking "In what year do you think a computer chess program will be able to
>>>>defeat the human world champion in a 20 game 40/2 match?"
>>>>Any feedback is welcome.
>>>>Regards
>>>>Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd answer 1998.  I think DB would have beaten Kasparov in 20 games just
>>>as it did in 6 games.  He already had a fork stuck in him by game 5.  He
>>>was "done" I think...
>>
>>
>>Surely this would not have been your prediction before that match...
>>
>>--Peter
>
>
>
>Nope... I originally guessed 2000.  And thought before the match that Kasparov
>would win.  But DB II was _much_ better than DB I.  And with "hindsight" I think
>DB would have won a 20 game match.

	I think the result of a 20 game match between Kasparov and Deeper Blue depends
highly on a single factor: the number of games per unit of time. At the pace
they have played (two games every three days) my favorite is Deep Blue, because
Kasparov gets tired and Deep Blue does not (I can hardly imagine how would he
manage to play 20 games in 30 days without losing it). But at three games per
week (used since Capablanca-Alekhine to Kasparov-Karpov) I favor Kasparov, as he
would have plenty of time to rest for every game.
José.



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