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Subject: Re: 1989 opinion poll and idea for new poll question

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:32:48 07/16/99

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On July 16, 1999 at 13:21:14, Peter Hegger wrote:

>On July 15, 1999 at 23:01:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 1999 at 18:02:00, KarinsDad wrote:
>>
>>>On July 14, 1999 at 16:25:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>The mean average of these predictions is the year 2005.
>>>>>I thought it might be interesting to formulate a new opinion poll question
>>>>>asking "In what year do you think a computer chess program will be able to
>>>>>defeat the human world champion in a 20 game 40/2 match?"
>>>>>Any feedback is welcome.
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'd answer 1998.  I think DB would have beaten Kasparov in 20 games just
>>>>as it did in 6 games.  He already had a fork stuck in him by game 5.  He
>>>>was "done" I think...
>>>
>>>However, the question was "In what year do you think a computer chess program
>>>will be able to defeat the human world champion in a 20 game 40/2 match?".
>>>
>>>Since that did not happen in 1998 (regardless of reason), the question is still
>>>valid, but your answer is not.
>>>
>>>So, when DO you predict that a program WILL beat a world champion in a 20 game
>>>40/2 match?
>>>
>>>KarinsDad :)
>>
>>if we discount Deep Blue, I would probably guess maybe 2010 as a first chance,
>>although this likely won't be a simple microcomputer program.  If Hsu delivers
>>his deep blue in a PC suit, I'd cut that to no more than 5 years from now.  If
>>we talk about commercial microprocessor 'desktop' machines only, I'd likely say
>>2020.
>
>Bob, some time ago you stated that when DB jr. is released as a 4 or 8 processor
>PCI card (supposedly in the next year or two) that it would be *atleast* 400
>rating points stronger than any micro program currently available. Would not
>such a set up smoke Kasparov in the hypothetical 2O game 40/2 match?

Not IMHO.  Remember that I have said that I believe that at 40/2hr games, the
computers are playing at 2400-2450.  2800-2850 won't "smoke" kasparov at all.
It will play with him evenly of course.



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