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Subject: Re: Poll Question (simple) What program is the most exciting to play/watch?!

Author: James Robertson

Date: 23:29:07 07/16/99

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On July 16, 1999 at 14:23:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 16, 1999 at 11:24:05, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 1999 at 22:57:41, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 1999 at 22:00:27, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>
>>>>  This question might be of use to commercial programmers, to know what sort of
>>>>style "most" people like to play against or watch.  The program with the most
>>>>exciting and enjoyable style to me is the TRUE chess system tal which is
>>>>CHESSMASTER(5555-6000)!!
>>>> Unfortunately i fear that we may not get to see as many of chessmaster's
>>>>fantastic brilliancies once the ssdf starts playing games on 450mhz machines.  I
>>>>can't quite figure why but CM seems to me to be stronger than most(any) progs
>>>>running on 200-266mhz machines.  However when playing on 450mhz+ machines some
>>>>of the other software somehow seems to get more advantage on these machines than
>>>>CM.  Which is surprising because i always thought CM would benefit more from the
>>>>speed than other progs.  Perhaps speed is the way to go vs knowledge progs.
>>>>
>>>>P.S.
>>>> Does anyone know why no one cares about nimzo? :)
>>>
>>>Mr. Unruh,
>>>
>>>The more knowledge a program has the faster the processor must be to compensate.
>>>A simple algorithm would be fast but it would not be smart.  We are looking at
>>>400 to 800 gigabyte end and midgame tablebases in the next five years.  We are
>>>going to need at least a one GHz to three Ghz processor and a massive amount of
>>>RAM to use all that info.  Chinook, the world champion checker program already
>>>has access to 400 Gbyte eight man tablebases.
>>
>>In Checkers only 1/2 of the squares can have pieces, and there are a lot of
>>other things (no ep, etc.) that make them smaller. I personnally think it will
>>be a lot longer than 5 years before there are 8-man chess tablebases. :)
>>
>>James
>>
>>>
>>>I personally think that our society is getting too complicated.  Life was
>>>simpler in the days of Nimzovitch.  We are all addicted to technology.
>
>
>8 piece checker endings are old news.  Check out the Chinook project at the
>University of Alberta.  They are beyond this already...

Umm.... I said _chess_, not checkers. :)

James



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