Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 05:46:14 07/17/99
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On July 17, 1999 at 02:29:07, James Robertson wrote: >On July 16, 1999 at 14:23:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 16, 1999 at 11:24:05, James Robertson wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 1999 at 22:57:41, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 1999 at 22:00:27, Charles Unruh wrote: >>>> >>>>> This question might be of use to commercial programmers, to know what sort of >>>>>style "most" people like to play against or watch. The program with the most >>>>>exciting and enjoyable style to me is the TRUE chess system tal which is >>>>>CHESSMASTER(5555-6000)!! >>>>> Unfortunately i fear that we may not get to see as many of chessmaster's >>>>>fantastic brilliancies once the ssdf starts playing games on 450mhz machines. I >>>>>can't quite figure why but CM seems to me to be stronger than most(any) progs >>>>>running on 200-266mhz machines. However when playing on 450mhz+ machines some >>>>>of the other software somehow seems to get more advantage on these machines than >>>>>CM. Which is surprising because i always thought CM would benefit more from the >>>>>speed than other progs. Perhaps speed is the way to go vs knowledge progs. >>>>> >>>>>P.S. >>>>> Does anyone know why no one cares about nimzo? :) >>>> >>>>Mr. Unruh, >>>> >>>>The more knowledge a program has the faster the processor must be to compensate. >>>>A simple algorithm would be fast but it would not be smart. We are looking at >>>>400 to 800 gigabyte end and midgame tablebases in the next five years. We are >>>>going to need at least a one GHz to three Ghz processor and a massive amount of >>>>RAM to use all that info. Chinook, the world champion checker program already >>>>has access to 400 Gbyte eight man tablebases. >>> >>>In Checkers only 1/2 of the squares can have pieces, and there are a lot of >>>other things (no ep, etc.) that make them smaller. I personnally think it will >>>be a lot longer than 5 years before there are 8-man chess tablebases. :) >>> >>>James >>> >>>> >>>>I personally think that our society is getting too complicated. Life was >>>>simpler in the days of Nimzovitch. We are all addicted to technology. >> >> >>8 piece checker endings are old news. Check out the Chinook project at the >>University of Alberta. They are beyond this already... > >Umm.... I said _chess_, not checkers. :) > >James Yes you did... I saw the 'checkers' word and missed the subsequent 'chess' qualifier. 5 years is not a lot of time to reach file sizes that are 64^3 bigger than todays files. Disks seems to be doubling in size every year or so. In 5 years they will be maybe 32 times bigger. We don't neet 32 times bigger, we neet 64^3 times bigger, which needs roughly 18 doublings to make them practical.
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