Author: pete
Date: 14:31:25 07/19/99
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On July 19, 1999 at 10:05:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On July 18, 1999 at 22:52:23, K1 wrote: > >>I have started such a site for winboard programs, strictly for fun. URL is at : >>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Base/5978/ >>Regards. > >Those old times: if we all would be still playing 40 moves in 5 minutes >at a P75 with 32 mb RAM, so actual speed is >a P37.5 > >Let's calculate a little: > >a P133 is exactly 3 times slower for DIEP as a Pentium pro200. >a PII450 is a little bit more than 2 times faster than a PRO200. > >So a PII450 is about 4 x 3 x (133/37.5) times faster = 45 times faster. > >Let's see: 40 moves in 300 seconds = 7.5 seconds a move. >That's 7.5 / 45 = 0.167 seconds a move at a PII450. > >Gotta be a 1 ply search a move tournament... >...and winner is a prog searching 2 ply i bet? >...hopefully you have good old genius somewhere, cuz >it loves those tournaments... > >I still didn't take into account >the small hashsize which caused huge >swapping playing the engines against each other. > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >distinct winboard programmes + 3 older versions (#30 to #32, to make total >number of competitors = 32) > >Knock out system (alphabetical order for #1 to #29! Drawn game replayed until >winner emerged) >Time control : 40 moves/5mins >Hardware/OS : Toshiba Libretto, Pentium 75mHz, 32mb ram, Windows 95 >All games played using Tim Mann’s Winboard ver 4.0.2 I also have one of those slow computers a P133 ; 16 MB RAM; and I sometimes like to watch games between two computers ( similar to watching TV ) And as the other one is P233MMX or PII300 I know only one prog that can keep up with the ones on the faster computer; and this _is_ genius . I noticed you seem to hate genius ; how come ? And why do people think it is dumb ? The moves it makes are usually sensible ; not always the best ones but never real bad ones , which is not always true of the best progs now. It is simple truth that on very slow hardware genius is still one of the if not _the_ absolute best ; and it seems to be also true that genius profits much les than other progs from faster hardware . Now can you explain why everyone thinks genius is dumb ? from a naive point of view one could also state the complete opposite. and there is one field where genius still seems to rule ; despite of all the tablebase stuff ; and this is complex endings; again something not sounding dumb :) now everyone also seems to agree that genius is basically the same since genius3 ; and this is reproducable as genius3 scores the same as genius 6 ; so , maybe it is just a prog with no serious development in the last years ? This is a sensible question and I hope you won't feel offended. Pete
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