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Subject: Re: I resign the Post as Moderator.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:50:11 07/22/99

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On July 22, 1999 at 21:29:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On July 22, 1999 at 21:24:10, Phil Dixon wrote:
>>On July 22, 1999 at 20:12:33, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>On July 22, 1999 at 19:28:18, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>I never did understand the moderation representation on CCC. We vote for three
>>>>moderators, but instead of having two of the three moderators agreeing to delete
>>>>a post, we have three three kings that do as they will when they see a post they
>>>>think should be deleted. This approach kills the representation of the mass of
>>>>CCC. Not a very logical way to represent the voters.
>>>>Under the circumstances of how the moderators represent the voters I understand
>>>>and agree with your reasons for resigning. As it stands now if one moderator can
>>>>delete posts at will without the consent of at least one other moderator, this
>>>>leave you unable to represent your position and view as moderator that you ran
>>>>and were elected on by the voters of CCC to represent.
>>>It depends upon how you see the job of moderator.  I view post deletion as a
>>>police function, mainly.  You wouldn't expect the cops to get together and vote
>>>before they arrested someone, would you?
>>>The voting process has no hierarchy or decision process built in.  We elect
>>>three moderators but we don't give them any framework for dealing with each
>>>other.  My first point of business was to try to establish a framework, but we
>>>never got together and did it.
>>>I think this is only the second time that something was deleted, it has been
>>>mostly quiet so far.
>>>I don't think that moderators are above the charter, and I will react the same
>>>way to a moderator post as to any other post.  If I had seen any other member
>>>post that I would have deleted it.
>>I don't think any one person should be allowed to impose their guidelines,
>>standards, etc. on the rest of us here at the CCC.  I don't believe it was ever
>>set up with a ONE MAN show in mind.  No matter who it is.
>Alright.  Let's talk practical stuff, like I in fact did in my "platform" thing.
>Someone who you have never heard of writes a post with the title:
>"F--- you"
>The content of the post is:
>"No really, f--- you".
>That's all, but of course the hyphens in the post are of course not hyphens, and
>I would ordinarily spell out the words, but given the present climate I think
>people would probably jump on me.
>You run across this post at 12:38 a.m., as you are getting ready to go to bed.
>What do *you* do about this, as one of three moderators?

I think you did just fine.  I saw the post as I just happened to be on
rediculously late last night.  It wasn't 'gross' but it was 'inappropriate'
IMHO.  IE I don't think Fernando tried to start a flap.  Any more than he
tried to start a flap with the 'welcome women' post a couple of weeks ago
that turned outrageous pretty soon.

This is not a "joke board" or a "idle chat" board or a "welcome, we need more
women here" board.  It is supposedly about computer chess.  And perhaps
occasional side-tracks discussing moderation...  But the really left-field
stuff can just as well be done without as with...

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