Author: Peter McKenzie
Date: 07:58:21 07/23/99
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On July 23, 1999 at 01:58:25, KarinsDad wrote: >On July 23, 1999 at 00:33:51, Peter McKenzie wrote: > >>With Fernando resigning as moderator we have, for the third consecutive >>moderation period, one of the moderators resigning. >> >>Last moderation period, I resigned (with about 1.5 months to go). This isn't >>widely known as I didn't post about it on this board (I wasn't keen on >>disrupting the group, hopefully its not such an issue now). >> >>The period before that Bruce resigned, also near the end of his term. >> >>I think all three resignations were at least in part related to differences >>between the members of the moderation team. Its fair to say that the 3 man >>moderation team concept isn't working very well from a team perspective. > >I had heard that you resigned since you often got outvoted 2 to 1. Is this true? I don't think so, we didn't often vote on matters from memory. >If so, why are you recommending a solution below where moderators have to vote >on deletions? In any case I wasn't recommending the voting system (although after further thought I am liking it more), I was merely putting a couple of ideas 'on the table'. > >> >>Perhaps we could look at changes to the moderation system in an effort to avoid >>this sort of thing happening in the future. Here are some ideas: >> >>- Each moderator has a period of 2 months where only they can delete posts. > >Who moderates the rogue moderator then? Both deletions (the thread and the >individual post) were a direct result of Fernando posting something that did or >could offend someone (and I was not blameless in the thread). > >> >>- at least 2 moderators must agree before deleting a post. >> >>The disadvantage of both of these ideas is that they reduce the chance that a >>really stupid message is deleted quickly. Perhaps this isn't such a big price >>to pay for a more harmonious system. > >I think the system CAN be harmonious. I think that Fernando should have just Sure the system CAN be harmonious, but I don't think that it is LIKELY. I'm not totally confident in the current system, based on what I've seen so far. >resigned for personal reasons if he felt that strongly. There are a lot of >people who spout off about personal rights and offenses, but are too blind to >see when they are offending others. > >It is NOT the moderators who always cause the problem, they are just convenient >targets for the real people who do. It is ALWAYS the same people jumping on the >anti-moderator bandwagon whenever a problem occurs. I'm not saying the moderators always cause the problem. I'm saying that the current moderation system isn't making things any easier for the moderators. > >And quite frankly, I can still count on one hand the number of Emails that we >have received about inappropriate posts. The problems with moderators resigning >are generally not due to the forum, but appear to be with individual moderators >and their own personal problems with the job. Part of the job may be that you >may not be moderating like you thought you would or should. But, quite frankly, >that is up to the individual moderator and the group elected. If the period of >time is too long, or the person does not want to vote for deletions or whatever, >then you will still have resignations. There is NO solution that will work for >everyone and these attempts to come up with one are kind of silly. Hmm, I think its silly to stick with a poor system without at least considering the possibility that there is a better system available. > >Just let the moderators do their job. Just let moderators who are frustrated >quit. Just let the system work without attempting to tweak it when it is OBVIOUS >that practically no matter what you do, it will not work for all candidates in >the future. Sure no system is perfect, but some are better than others. By 'tweaking' the current moderation system, I think we can significantly reduce the number of problems we will see in the future. > >> >>cheers, >>Peter > >KarinsDad :)
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