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Subject: Re: To Mark Young: Part 2

Author: Mark Young

Date: 22:36:56 07/23/99

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On July 24, 1999 at 01:20:55, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On July 24, 1999 at 00:52:47, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On July 24, 1999 at 00:14:32, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>>The game as I stated in my original post was at 40/2. Hiarcs selected a4 and
>>>after making the move its score dropped to a minus. I therefore allowed Hiarcs
>>>to replay the move. Hiarcs then selected Rf1. I again let Hiarcs replay the move
>>>and again it selected Rf1.
>>>
>>>Now, I believe it is quite evident that Hiarcs learning function did not allow
>>>it to replay a4 and insisted on playing Rf1. If you think a4 was not a bad move,
>>>then how come Hiarcs would not play it again and insisted on Rf1?
>>>
>>>By the way, your headline in the post to me is not appreciated. I expected an
>>>intelligent discussion about this and not some silly rhetoric. You asked for
>>>examples and I gave you some. You insist on dwelling on this trying to dispute
>>>even the program you are raving about. Hiarcs recognized a4 was bad and that's
>>>why it wouldn't play it again - unless you have some better explanation?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mel
>>
>>Did you play a move in reply after it played a4 before returning to the position
>>before a4?  If so, which?  It could be that Mark's copy is ____________
>
>Hello Dave,
>
>I did not respond to a4 because I saw the score drop from a plus to a minus and
>decided to let Hiarcs replay the move - I was curious because a4 appeared to be
>a bad move as the score indicated. When replaying the move, Hiarcs selected Rf1
>with a plus score. I then let it replay the move once again and again it
>selected Rf1 again with a plus score. I decided to let the game continue with
>Rf1. Apparently the learning function prohibited it from playing a4 again
>because it was a bad move. Otherwise, what could possibly be the explanation?

I can tell you this it had nothing to do with hiarcs 7.32 learning fuction. You
played the game at 40/2. I let it think for over 20 mins on this position and it
never showed at - score with the move a4.

And if it did, it does not matter, you claim the move a4 was a blunder. Why
because Hiarcs 7.32 plays the move a4 but on your system it shows a - score.
Since when does a - score mean a move is a blunder, just because a program
thinks it is. I Looked at the position as a human chess player, and analyzed it
myself. I could not find a way to refute the move, nor could the other chess
programs that played against Hiarcs 7.32 from this position.

>
>Regards,
>Mel
>
>not analyzing a
>>particular response as deeply as yours did, not having been prompted to do so by
>>a move from the opponent.
>>
>>Dave



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