Author: Mark Young
Date: 11:08:16 07/24/99
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On July 24, 1999 at 14:00:11, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >On July 24, 1999 at 12:40:32, Mark Young wrote: > >>On July 24, 1999 at 06:36:46, blass uri wrote: >> >>> >>>On July 24, 1999 at 06:21:39, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On July 24, 1999 at 04:43:06, Terry Ripple wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi Mel, >>>>> I did exactly as you instructed and ran it from that Position on 40/2hr. and >>>>>when Hiarcs7.32 made the move a4 (0.59/9), i then left Hiarcs continue to think >>>>>on my time as if i was playing Hiarcs in a tournament setting and at no time did >>>>>Hiarcs ever think it was in the "negative" and in fact Hiarcs kept a small >>>>>plus(.46/10) for up to a "full 10 min." of its thinking on my time! I then >>>>>repeated the same position before the move a4 and Hiarcs "STILL" wants to make >>>>>the very "Same Move"- "a4". The position learning was working because before it >>>>>showed in its analysis 2.a4, Nd7 3.a5, etc. but after i left it think on my time >>>>>and tried the position once again it then was showing 2.a4, Nd7 3.Nf5,etc. >>>>> This leads me to believe that if Mark and i are getting the same conclusions >>>>>from our Hiarcs Program, that it dont take a "Rocket Scientist" to draw a >>>>>conclusion that there must be something thats conflicting in your Hiarcs set-up! >>>>> >>>>>Regards, Terry >>>> >>>>I gave my hiarcs7.32 64 Mb hash tables and some hours on my pentium200 and at >>>>depth 11/30 it wants to play >>>>Rb1 instead of a4. >>>> >>>>I did not look at the screen so I do not know when Hiarcs changed its mind >>>> >>>>Uri >>>Now it wants to play Rf1 at the same depth with evaluation 0.31 after more than >>>3 hours >> >>The game was played at 40/2. The question is not if hiarcs 7.32 will play Rf1, >>the question is, is a4 played by Hiarcs 7.32 at 40/2 a blunder? This was the >>claim. >_______________ > >Now, Mark, you insisted Hiarcs only chose a4, so how come we now have Mr. Blass >reporting that after 3 hours it wants to play Rf1? > >Mark, when I posted the examples for you, I used the words "bad move". Now, I >gave you the reason why I said that because Hiarcs changed from a4 to Rf1. Very >simple. Also, in this same game at move 20 Hiarcs played and it stayed Qd2 - Do >you think that was a good move? > >>> >>>Uri Hey, slow person. Terry and I followed your instructions, and it was not to see what Hiarcs 7.32 would play after 3 hours. My Hiarcs 7.32 still plays a4 for the full 11 plys. So explain that. New position rnbk3r/pp4bp/1qp2pP1/3p3B/4p2N/2P5/PPP3PP/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1 Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32: 12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 ² (0.45) depth: 1 00:00:00 12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 ² (0.45) depth: 2/5 00:00:00 12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 ² (0.45) depth: 3/9 00:00:00 12.Rf1 Be6 = (0.20) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 12.Rf1 Be6 13.Qe2 hxg6 14.Nxg6 = (0.01) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 12.g3 Bd7 13.Qd4 hxg6 14.Bxg6 = (0.14) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 12.g3 Bd7 13.Qe2 c5 14.Bg4 = (0.01) depth: 5/17 00:00:00 8kN 12.Rb1 Be6 13.Bf4 hxg6 14.Nxg6 ² (0.28) depth: 5/17 00:00:01 42kN 12.Rb1 Qa5 13.Bf4 Qxa2 14.0-0 Na6 = (0.23) depth: 6/21 00:00:02 69kN 12.Rb1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.Bf4 Be6 15.Qe2 c5 ² (0.41) depth: 7/23 00:00:06 211kN 12.Rb1 Nd7 = (0.16) depth: 8/25 00:00:14 477kN 12.Rb1 Nd7 13.Bf4 Ne5 14.gxh7 Rxh7 = (0.08) depth: 8/27 00:00:17 595kN 12.a4 a5 13.Ra3 hxg6 ² (0.31) depth: 8/27 00:01:13 2397kN 12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Qe2 Ne5 15.Be3 Qd6 16.gxh7 Nc4 17.Ng6 Rxh7 ² (0.26) depth: 9/27 00:01:56 3805kN 12.a4 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.a5 Qc5 15.Bf4 Na6 16.Rf1 Qb5 17.b3 Qc5 18.c4 Qb4+ 19.Kf2 ² (0.35) depth: 10/29 00:05:40 10900kN 12.a4 Nd7 = (0.10) depth: 11/30 00:11:01 21447kN 12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Nf5 Ne5 15.Nxg7 hxg6 16.a6 = (0.09) depth: 11/30 00:13:13 25871kN (Young, 7/24/99)
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