Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 11:39:46 07/24/99
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On July 24, 1999 at 14:08:16, Mark Young wrote: >On July 24, 1999 at 14:00:11, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On July 24, 1999 at 12:40:32, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On July 24, 1999 at 06:36:46, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On July 24, 1999 at 06:21:39, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>On July 24, 1999 at 04:43:06, Terry Ripple wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Mel, >>>>>> I did exactly as you instructed and ran it from that Position on 40/2hr. and >>>>>>when Hiarcs7.32 made the move a4 (0.59/9), i then left Hiarcs continue to think >>>>>>on my time as if i was playing Hiarcs in a tournament setting and at no time did >>>>>>Hiarcs ever think it was in the "negative" and in fact Hiarcs kept a small >>>>>>plus(.46/10) for up to a "full 10 min." of its thinking on my time! I then >>>>>>repeated the same position before the move a4 and Hiarcs "STILL" wants to make >>>>>>the very "Same Move"- "a4". The position learning was working because before it >>>>>>showed in its analysis 2.a4, Nd7 3.a5, etc. but after i left it think on my time >>>>>>and tried the position once again it then was showing 2.a4, Nd7 3.Nf5,etc. >>>>>> This leads me to believe that if Mark and i are getting the same conclusions >>>>>>from our Hiarcs Program, that it dont take a "Rocket Scientist" to draw a >>>>>>conclusion that there must be something thats conflicting in your Hiarcs set-up! >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards, Terry >>>>> >>>>>I gave my hiarcs7.32 64 Mb hash tables and some hours on my pentium200 and at >>>>>depth 11/30 it wants to play >>>>>Rb1 instead of a4. >>>>> >>>>>I did not look at the screen so I do not know when Hiarcs changed its mind >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>>Now it wants to play Rf1 at the same depth with evaluation 0.31 after more than >>>>3 hours >>> >>>The game was played at 40/2. The question is not if hiarcs 7.32 will play Rf1, >>>the question is, is a4 played by Hiarcs 7.32 at 40/2 a blunder? This was the >>>claim. >>_______________ >> >>Now, Mark, you insisted Hiarcs only chose a4, so how come we now have Mr. Blass >>reporting that after 3 hours it wants to play Rf1? >> >>Mark, when I posted the examples for you, I used the words "bad move". Now, I >>gave you the reason why I said that because Hiarcs changed from a4 to Rf1. Very >>simple. Also, in this same game at move 20 Hiarcs played and it stayed Qd2 - Do >>you think that was a good move? >> >>>> >>>>Uri > >Hey, slow person. Terry and I followed your instructions, __________________ Okay, Mark, as in the past you once again resort to using distasteful comments. I will not lower myself to your level of thinking and use similar words in response. I am only interested in debating an issue with someone who does not look to inflame the argument with degrading remarks. I have many more important things to do than to continue this issue and accept your insulting remarks. ____________________________________________________ and it was not to see >what Hiarcs 7.32 would play after 3 hours. My Hiarcs 7.32 still plays a4 for the >full 11 plys. So explain that. > >New position >rnbk3r/pp4bp/1qp2pP1/3p3B/4p2N/2P5/PPP3PP/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1 > >Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32: > >12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 > ² (0.45) depth: 1 00:00:00 >12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 > ² (0.45) depth: 2/5 00:00:00 >12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 > ² (0.45) depth: 3/9 00:00:00 >12.Rf1 Be6 > = (0.20) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 >12.Rf1 Be6 13.Qe2 hxg6 14.Nxg6 > = (0.01) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 >12.g3 Bd7 13.Qd4 hxg6 14.Bxg6 > = (0.14) depth: 4/10 00:00:00 >12.g3 Bd7 13.Qe2 c5 14.Bg4 > = (0.01) depth: 5/17 00:00:00 8kN >12.Rb1 Be6 13.Bf4 hxg6 14.Nxg6 > ² (0.28) depth: 5/17 00:00:01 42kN >12.Rb1 Qa5 13.Bf4 Qxa2 14.0-0 Na6 > = (0.23) depth: 6/21 00:00:02 69kN >12.Rb1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.Bf4 Be6 15.Qe2 c5 > ² (0.41) depth: 7/23 00:00:06 211kN >12.Rb1 Nd7 > = (0.16) depth: 8/25 00:00:14 477kN >12.Rb1 Nd7 13.Bf4 Ne5 14.gxh7 Rxh7 > = (0.08) depth: 8/27 00:00:17 595kN >12.a4 a5 13.Ra3 hxg6 > ² (0.31) depth: 8/27 00:01:13 2397kN >12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Qe2 Ne5 15.Be3 Qd6 16.gxh7 Nc4 17.Ng6 Rxh7 > ² (0.26) depth: 9/27 00:01:56 3805kN >12.a4 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.a5 Qc5 15.Bf4 Na6 16.Rf1 Qb5 17.b3 Qc5 18.c4 Qb4+ >19.Kf2 > ² (0.35) depth: 10/29 00:05:40 10900kN >12.a4 Nd7 > = (0.10) depth: 11/30 00:11:01 21447kN >12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Nf5 Ne5 15.Nxg7 hxg6 16.a6 > = (0.09) depth: 11/30 00:13:13 25871kN > >(Young, 7/24/99)
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