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Subject: Re: To Melvin Schwartz, Part 4 - Possibly your Hiarcs has a Corrupted File!!

Author: Mark Young

Date: 12:33:06 07/24/99

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On July 24, 1999 at 06:36:46, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 24, 1999 at 06:21:39, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 24, 1999 at 04:43:06, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Mel,
>>>  I did exactly as you instructed and ran it from that Position on 40/2hr. and
>>>when Hiarcs7.32 made the move a4 (0.59/9), i then left Hiarcs continue to think
>>>on my time as if i was playing Hiarcs in a tournament setting and at no time did
>>>Hiarcs ever think it was in the "negative" and in fact Hiarcs kept a small
>>>plus(.46/10) for up to a "full 10 min." of its thinking on my time! I then
>>>repeated the same position before the move a4 and Hiarcs "STILL" wants to make
>>>the very "Same Move"- "a4". The position learning was working because before it
>>>showed in its analysis 2.a4, Nd7 3.a5, etc. but after i left it think on my time
>>>and tried the position once again it then was showing 2.a4, Nd7 3.Nf5,etc.
>>>  This leads me to believe that if Mark and i are getting the same conclusions
>>>from our Hiarcs Program, that it dont take a "Rocket Scientist" to draw a
>>>conclusion that there must be something thats conflicting in your Hiarcs set-up!
>>>
>>>Regards, Terry
>>
>>I gave my hiarcs7.32 64 Mb hash tables and some hours on my pentium200 and at
>>depth 11/30 it wants to play
>>Rb1 instead of a4.
>>
>>I did not look at the screen so I do not know when Hiarcs changed its mind
>>
>>Uri
>Now it wants to play Rf1 at the same depth with evaluation 0.31 after more than
>3 hours
>
>Uri

Here is an analysis dumb from Hiarcs 7.32 after 3 hours on a pII 400 it still
plays a4 at depth 12.

New position
rnbk3r/pp4bp/1qp2pP1/3p3B/4p2N/2P5/PPP3PP/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:

12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6
  ²  (0.45)   depth: 1   00:00:00
12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6
  ²  (0.45)   depth: 2/5   00:00:00
12.Rf1 hxg6 13.Nxg6
  ²  (0.45)   depth: 3/9   00:00:00
12.Rf1 Be6
  =  (0.20)   depth: 4/10   00:00:00
12.Rf1 Be6 13.Qe2 hxg6 14.Nxg6
  =  (0.01)   depth: 4/10   00:00:00
12.g3 Bd7 13.Qd4 hxg6 14.Bxg6
  =  (0.14)   depth: 4/10   00:00:00
12.g3 Bd7 13.Qe2 c5 14.Bg4
  =  (0.01)   depth: 5/17   00:00:00  8kN
12.Rb1 Be6 13.Bf4 hxg6 14.Nxg6
  ²  (0.28)   depth: 5/17   00:00:01  42kN
12.Rb1 Qa5 13.Bf4 Qxa2 14.0-0 Na6
  =  (0.23)   depth: 6/21   00:00:02  69kN
12.Rb1 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.Bf4 Be6 15.Qe2 c5
  ²  (0.41)   depth: 7/23   00:00:06  211kN
12.Rb1 Nd7
  =  (0.16)   depth: 8/25   00:00:14  477kN
12.Rb1 Nd7 13.Bf4 Ne5 14.gxh7 Rxh7
  =  (0.08)   depth: 8/27   00:00:17  595kN
12.a4 a5 13.Ra3 hxg6
  ²  (0.31)   depth: 8/27   00:01:13  2397kN
12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Qe2 Ne5 15.Be3 Qd6 16.gxh7 Nc4 17.Ng6 Rxh7
  ²  (0.26)   depth: 9/27   00:01:56  3805kN
12.a4 hxg6 13.Nxg6 Rh7 14.a5 Qc5 15.Bf4 Na6 16.Rf1 Qb5 17.b3 Qc5 18.c4 Qb4+
19.Kf2
  ²  (0.35)   depth: 10/29   00:05:40  10900kN
12.a4 Nd7
  =  (0.10)   depth: 11/30   00:11:01  21447kN
12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Nf5 Ne5 15.Nxg7 hxg6 16.a6
  =  (0.09)   depth: 11/30   00:13:13  25871kN
12.a4 Nd7 13.a5 Qc5 14.Nf5 Ne5 15.Nxg7 hxg6 16.Be2 Rh7 17.Qd4 Qd6 18.Bf4 Rxg7
19.0-0
  =  (0.18)   depth: 12/30   02:07:35  229783kN

(Young, 7/24/99)




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