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Subject: Re: to melvin and mark

Author: Mark Young

Date: 18:18:38 07/24/99

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On July 24, 1999 at 19:22:26, blass uri wrote:

>I do not know enough about chess to decide if the moves a4 and h4 are the right
>moves.
>
>It is clear that my hiarcs evaluated a4 as not the best move after 3 hours and
>prefered Rf1 but it only proved that my hiarcs believed after a long time that
>a4 is not the best move(Hiarcs7 may be wrong in this evaluation so it does not
>prove that a4 is not the best move).
>I do not know enough about chess to know which move is really best in the
>position.
>
>I do not see a problem with the fact that another hiarcs has another opinion
>because of the following possible reasons:
>1)another hiarcs may have another learning file
>2)Hiarcs is not deterministic

You are correct Hiarcs is not deterministic, as you know my hiarcs 7.32 sticks
with a4 after 3 hours and depth 12. But the issue never was would hiarcs 7.32
play another move. That issue only came about because this is what Mel based his
opinion on that a4 must be a blunder because other programs don't play it and
because hiarcs is not deterministic it choose another move when mel forced it to
think on the position again. Then came to the mistaken conclusion hiarcs 7.32
did not play a4 again because its leaning fuction saw it as a mistake. Then he
takes this mistaken canclusion about this position as proof that Hiarcs 7.32 is
not that good. When the facts are he never looked at the position himself and
has no idea if a4 is good or bad in fact. Very reckless.....

>
>
>About the second position:
>7k/6p1/7p/pR6/1p2N3/6P1/2r4P/6K1 w - - 0 1
>
>I think that h4 is leading to a draw and the same for Nc5
>It is easy for white to get draw after Nc5 Ra2 (for example Nb7 a4 Rxb4 a3
>Ra4 Rb2 Rxa3 Rxb7)
>
>white do not have to play Nb7 but I do not see a way for white to make progress
>in a different way.
>
>Uri



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