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Subject: Re: A view from the boundary.

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 18:03:12 07/25/99

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On July 25, 1999 at 06:46:01, Frank Phillips wrote:

>
>I download the CCC zip files and read them a day late.  Usually they are around
>100k.  When I noticed the latest two where 200k plus, my heart sank, which is a
>comment in itself because I knew the increased interest would not be due to
>computer chess programming.  (Yes I am a nerd.  Well an aspiring nerd anyway.
>But unlikely to be a top nerd and write a wonderful chess  program that so many
>enjoy.).
>
>From past experience, from the increased file size, I expected the usual: Deep
>Blue cheated/no it did not; Fritz is best/no it is not; ChessMaster is great/no
>it sucks (learning American :-)  ); someone else would have won WCCC if they had
>played different moves; just because a program won does not mean it is best and
>therefore should have won; the latest round of Bob Hyatt baiting; and so on and
>so on.
>
>I was wrong of course.  Although many of the posts had familiar qualities - my
>opinion is the truth and I will keep stating it until you agree with it in
>public, and if it is against the Charter well we will just have to change the
>Charter in my image; anyway, I will keep on arguing until I win (even it I have
>to redefine the debate and completely change my point of view) or at the very
>least have the last word.  Some of the most pertinent comments came from James
>Robertson.  Many other comments could well have come from someone younger (no
>offence James) – maybe they did.
>
>Thank you Bruce for upholding the Charter and deleting the joke.  I was offended
>by it, not because of its content but because it was posted here.  It should
>have been deleted quicker.  It should never have been posted here – until the
>Charter is changed.  This is black and white.  There is no grey.
>
>If we are going to change CCC into rgcc, perhaps now for the benefit of the
>majority (or at least the vociferous minority) who have little interest in chess
>programming,  I wonder how many members have any enthusiasm for a dry, moderated
>computer chess section/forum where like-minded people can discuss computer chess
>while restraining themselves from trying to impose their view of life on others.
> Comedians, philosophers and politicians can then talk to a more appreciative
>audience, and the rest us can be spared.
>
>Frank


I feel your pain, Frank.  I also read CCC mainly for the chess programming
discussions.  Last week there were some *very* interesting threads - the kind
that make CCC really worthwhile.

Unfortunately, every time someone throws a temper-tantrum here, the good
technical discussions end.

:-(

--Peter




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