Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 18:35:02 07/25/99
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On July 24, 1999 at 16:49:33, Fernando Villegas wrote: >Hi, including opponents et al: >If this mess has served a purpose has been to clarify that many things should be >clarified. Amir said well: there is a constitutional problem, or at least >different opinions about how moderation must be performed. Clearly is not enough >to recall the rules some day were stablished. Maybe they are by now obsolete, >maybe not, but in any case this long, too long debate, could serve to see that a >problem exist. I suppose that some will insist that there was not other problem >that an off topic, "dirty" joke without place here, but to think that way is >just to hide reality and try obsesively to return to point zero as if nothing >happens here. >Personally speaking, I do not want to damage this site. I begun with a post >resigning and giving my reasons and at once some people depicted my action as a >complot to ignite a war, a melodramatic suicide, etc. It was not so: I was not >saying farewell witH an outburst of flames, just resigning a position. But, many >post after that, I do not have ilusions that some people will reconsider and >understand what I did. For them I am and I will be forever the troublemaker, the >dirty guy, the menace to his souls, the man that sometimes writes things that >can produce daddy to become angry if he see you reading it. So much I am >considered a public menace that I am already threatened with delection as member >of this site for all that and, what is more, because was assumed I was going >to keep silent and beg a reconsideration of my post and case thorough silent >emails below pubic knowledge. By the way, It is curious for me, after so many >efforts I did with Steven Schwartzs to give life to this site inventing new >sections etc, that I am in the fringe of expulsion. >So, I am not going to keep answering posts that directly treat me as they want, >no matter what. I feel myself no more guilty until this point that to become >angry in some moments with all this stuff and the fact I used too harsh words in >some of my post and emails, but respect he man point I still think that if you >cannot post a joke from time to time with the mood with which every human being >want to share what he consider a funny thing, then we are wrong and we have >confused the goals of a place with a too narrow definItion and too coercitive >discipline and too blind implementation of "law". >In consequence, I will stop. I suppose enough has been said for each side to >know clearly what the other side think. I hope some good effects will come of >all this. Maybe the first is for each of us to remember that we are from very >different cultures and that means a lot more than different languages. >And now, if Don Dailey is reading this, please tell us about Cilkchess. Are we >going to see some kind of public availabiliy of it in a way or anther? >Fernando About jokes you could look at same games posted here this are real jokes in a computer sort of way instead of human And the strange fact is nobody ever says a thing about these games tough you actualy also could find these games offending torwards the programmer from the program wich lost acording to the posted game Also I think the if you want a serious and on honest side here something realy should be done on the moderation and doing this in a more democratic way so there should be a complete disagreement of a posted mesage from lets say 3 ,4 people another joke wich was posted here was from Jeroen van Dorp (He did give his exuses to me about this but anyway it was posted while I did get a complete deletions of my posts of the Schroder van Hal iseu wich was topic news) And did give me a bad feeling about the moderation here I did write several times and did get not a single response from my email to the moderator. So if you just delete mesages without a real reason what is the use of a moderation anyway? Ok I also do think you can right a joke about computer chess as long as it is not going to be out of hand
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