Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 15:51:21 07/26/99
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On July 26, 1999 at 18:44:01, Mark Young wrote: >On July 26, 1999 at 18:02:43, Dann Corbit wrote: [snip] >>Alright then, why don't we all pound the stuffings out of it and come up with >>some answers. >> >>Also, I do not trust the judgement of *any* program when it comes to positional >>issues. I think a human expert should also comment. > >Tactical test are tough enough when it cames to finding the true best "best >move". Positional test can and often do have more then one objectively "best >move" In many cases this is dictated by the positional style of person who is >playing the position. What is the best move for Karpov may not be the best move >for Kasparov, but both win and are correct. Some of them may be very subjective. But it seems that we could at least solicit comments from human experts. Some may be refuted for obvious reasons, or confirmed in the same manner. An example of a well defined positional test is LCT II. I have some email from the author giving excellent lines of reasoning on why a given positional move has value. Once again, here is the bare EPD, ready for computerized cranking or human analysis: r2k3r/ppp1bppp/3n4/8/3N4/2N5/PPP1bPPP/3RK2R w K - id "RemiC.0000"; bm Kxe2; 8/3q1k2/5ppp/8/p1R5/P1K1N2P/1P3PP1/8 w - - id "RemiC.0001"; bm b3 b4; 3r2k1/pq6/2r4p/2p1Q3/2Pp1p1p/1P3P2/P4P2/1R1R2K1 w - - id "RemiC.0002"; bm Kh2; am Qxf4; r5kr/pp3pp1/4p1p1/1Qn5/3BnP2/2P3Pq/PP2BR1P/R5K1 w - - id "RemiC.0003"; bm Rg2 Bf1; am Bxc5; r4rk1/p3pp1p/b1p5/2P1N1p1/4PB2/2b2K2/P4PPP/3R3R w - - id "RemiC.0004"; bm Nxc6; r3k2r/pp1b1ppp/2n1p3/q7/3P4/P1PB1N2/3Q1PPP/R4RK1 b kq - id "RemiC.0005"; bm Rc8 O-O Rd8 Rb8; am f6; r3k2r/pp1b2pp/2n1pp2/q7/3P4/P1PB1N2/3Q1PPP/RR4K1 b kq - id "RemiC.0006"; bm Nd8; am b6; 1rq1r1k1/5ppp/b7/b1pNp3/4P3/1B3Q2/PP3PPP/2RK3R w - - id "RemiC.0007"; bm Rc2; r1b2rk1/pppp1ppp/5n2/4q3/1b2P3/2NQ4/PPPB1PPP/2KR1B1R b - - id "RemiC.0008"; am Bxc3; r1bq1rk1/pp2bppp/2nppn2/8/2BNP3/2N1B3/PPP2PPP/R2Q1RK1 w - - id "RemiC.0009"; am Nxc6; r1bqkbnr/pp3ppp/2np4/1Bp1p3/4P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - id "RemiC.0010"; am Bxc6; rn1qk2r/ppp2ppp/5p2/3p1b2/1b1P4/2NBP3/PPP2PPP/R2QK1NR b KQkq - id "RemiC.0011"; am Bxc3+; bm Bxd3; 3r2k1/Qp4q1/p1p3pp/3b4/4p1P1/P3P3/1P2B1PP/2R3K1 w - - id "RemiC.0012"; am Rc2; bm Qb6; r5k1/1pq1nppp/p2b4/3P1b2/2B5/PPN2NP1/1B2KPP1/R6R w - - id "RemiC.0013"; am Kf1; bm Rhd1; r2q1rk1/1pnbb1np/p2p1ppB/2pP4/4P3/1QN5/PP1NBPPP/R4RK1 w - - id "RemiC.0014"; am Bxg7; 1q5k/pr2bp1n/2ppb3/2p1p3/2P1P1rp/1PNP1N2/P3QPPB/R3R2K w - - id "RemiC.0015"; bm Nd1; r4rk1/3bqppp/pp2p1n1/n2pP3/2pP4/P1P1QN2/1PBN1PPP/R4RK1 w - - id "RemiC.0016"; am Bxg6; 4r1k1/1ppn3p/p1bprppN/8/qPPQPB2/2P3RP/P3R1P1/6K1 b - - id "RemiC.0017"; bm Kg7; am Kf8 Kh8 rnbq1rk1/pp3ppp/3b1n2/1N1p4/3P4/1PP2N2/5PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQ - id "RemiC.0018"; am Nxa7 r2q1rk1/pp1n1pp1/2pnp3/6P1/Pb1P4/3BP3/1PQ2PN1/R1B2RK1 w - - id "RemiC.0019"; bm f4 e4; am g6; 1r1qr1k1/p4ppp/2pb1n2/3p1b2/3B4/1BN5/PPPQ1PPP/1R3RK1 w - - id "RemiC.0020"; am Kh1; 1k4rr/p1p5/1p6/1R1P2p1/2q2p1p/7P/P4PP1/1Q1R2K1 b - - id "RemiC.0021"; bm g4; am Rd8; 3r1rk1/pb4p1/2npp2p/2p2p2/1qP1B2N/1P2P3/P4PPP/R2QR1K1 w - - id "RemiC.0022"; bm Bxc6; am Bf3; 3r2k1/pb4p1/2n1pr1p/2p2p2/1qPp3N/1P2PB2/P3QPPP/R2R2K1 w - - id "RemiC.0023"; bm Bxc6 exd4 a3; am Kf1;
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