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Subject: Re: Is it the real Crafty 16.13 who have play this move ?

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 03:15:07 07/27/99

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On July 26, 1999 at 19:25:11, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 26, 1999 at 17:51:14, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>The level is 3 seconds on a P133, that's not very much but Genius 5, Fritz 5.16
>>and Rebel 9 are incredibly strong (for a 1850 player like me ;)  ) at this speed
>>...
>>
>>I've never see a commercial prog play a weak move like 15...g5 ???
>>Have crafty something broken ?
>>
>>Crafty is an engine in Hiarcs 7.32 ...here's the game :
>>
>>[Event "?"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Lejeune, Vincent"]
>>[Black "Crafty, 16.13"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[ECO "B65"]
>>[PlyCount "56"]
>>
>>{8192kB, Hiarcs.ctg. Pentium133
>>} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5.
>>Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 d6 7. Qd2 Be7 8. O-O-O O-O 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Kb1 h6
>>12. Bh4 e5 {0.15/7} 13. fxe5 dxe5 {0.01/8} 14. Qf2 Ng4 {-0.13/8} 15. Qg3 g5 {
>>0.52/8} 16. Nd5 Bc5 {0.52/7} 17. Bxg5 hxg5 {2.15/6} 18. h3 Bf2 {2.40/7} 19. Qf3
>>Ne3 {2.38/7} 20. Nxe3 Be6 {2.74/8} 21. b3 Bxe3 {2.24/7} 22. Qxe3 f6 {2.53/7}
>>23. h4 Rad8 {2.78/6} 24. Be2 Rxd1+ {2.40/6} 25. Rxd1 Rd8 {2.45/7} 26. hxg5
>>Rxd1+ {1.80/7} 27. Bxd1 Qd8 {1.93/8} 28. Bf3 fxg5 {2.13/8} *
>
>All programs will make goofy moves from time to time (just scan the messages in
>this list and you will see complaints about strange moves made by Hiarcs, Fritz,
>etc.
>
>And speed chess makes dumb moves even more likely.  Examine the thread just
>below about a strange human/human match.  If the game score is true, then I
>would say you would be hard pressed to see such a goofy game by two club players
>at 40/2 -- much less Kasparov -- who made a colossal blunder (again -- pending
>validation of the acutal moves).
>
>Which is why I despise all forms of speed chess.  But that is my personal
>disposition.  For those that enjoy it -- have at it.

I'm just verifying the position before 15...g5?? with Hiarcs 7.32 (the stronger
program in comp-comp game) and it plays the "horrible" move g5?? too after 1 min
on my P133.

I've reached an anti-computer position without seeing that.

Sorry, the critic about crafty was not justified ...



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