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Subject: Re:            [-]    GM Rohde versus REBEL 10.5   [-]

Author: Lawrence S. Tamarkin

Date: 17:43:06 08/01/99

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That's what I thought was the case for the 1st match, only difference was that I
thougth Rohde was gonna get killed because I knew he was doing almost no
preperation against the thing.  I posted several times that I thought Rebel10.5
was going to beat him in 30 moves or less, and that got me in a lot of trouble
with the Rohde's, as one of them thought I was deliberately insulting the human
just for the hell of it.  But it was genuine concern; I really thoutht that MR
should have done as much preperation as possible before playing the match.  I
was later told that he did NO preperation, and yet won brilliantly anyway (His
excellent notes are in the August 1999 Chess Life).

Now I think differently;  I think that good GM's (like Mike Rohde), who have
played in many past Computer/Human tournaments, still have a significant
advantage in skill & talent, and I also think that preperation is overated
(except maybe the above in that the GM has general experience agianst chess
playing programs).

This time I think Michael will 'kill' the thing again and just as 'brilliantly'.

But that's what these REBEL challenges are all about, right?


mrslug - the chess software addick!

On August 01, 1999 at 16:20:51, walter irvin wrote:

>On August 01, 1999 at 06:59:55, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>           [-]    GM Rohde versus REBEL 10.5   [-]
>>
>>          The CHESS 2010 POLL clearly shows that people consider
>>          Man versus Machine games to be more important than
>>          Computer versus Computer.
>>
>>          Due to the absence of strong Man versus Machine
>>          competitions Rebel company has introduced a new
>>          initiative called The Monthly GM Challenge.
>>
>>          The goal is that REBEL plays one LIVE tournament
>>          game against a grandmaster each month. Live coverage
>>          including Rebel analysis via the Rebel Home Page and
>>          the ICC.
>>
>>          Prizes: * $500 if the grandmaster wins against REBEL.
>>                  * $250 for a draw.
>>                  * No prize money in case of a loss against REBEL.
>>
>>          We challenge every chess player with an official
>>          FIDE grandmaster title to take the bite and play our
>>          program. You can contact us by email. Acceptance of
>>          entries is done in the order we receive them.
>>
>>          The third game is scheduled on Saturday August 14, 1999
>>          against GM Michael Rohde well known from the Man versus
>>          Machine Harvard Cup events.
>>
>> 
>>          ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>          Biographical information Michael Rohde
>>
>>          Known for his aggressive attacking style, Michael Rohde
>>          became a Grandmaster in 1988, and writes the column "Game
>>          of the Month" for Chess Life. Michael won the brilliancy
>>          prize in 3 consecutive U.S. Championships, from 1986
>>          through 1988. In 1991, he took first place in the strongest
>>          ever U.S. Open.
>>
>>          A former National Junior High, National High School and U.S.
>>          Junior Champion, Rohde has tied for first in the World Open,
>>          and captured the New York State Championship, the Marshall
>>          Chess Club and Manhattan Chess Club Championships, and numerous
>>          other titles.
>>
>>          Currently among the top 20 players in the U.S., Michael has
>>          been ranked withing the top 5 in the country and top 60 in the
>>          world. Michael is the author of two books on chess openings -
>>          "The Great Evans Gambit Debate"(Thinkers' Press 1997) and "Play
>>          the Sveshnikov!" (HaysPublishing 1998).
>>
>>          Michael works with GM-elect Maurice Ashley on the popular
>>          chess educational website ChessWise and has been active in
>>          numerous other internet chess activities, including
>>          commentating on the 1997 and 1998 U.S. Championships for the
>>          US Chess Federation website, and conducting his own site.
>>
>>          Michael participated each year in the "Harvard Cup" series of
>>          GM vs. computer events, several times finishing first among the
>>          GMs. Mr. Rohde also is an attorney specializing in the field
>>          of federal tax controversy, and lives with his family in New
>>          York City.
>>
>>          * Download 378 games of GM Rohde.
>>
>>          ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>          Hardware & Software REBEL
>>
>>          * Program: Rebel Paderborn edition (workname Rebel 10.5).
>>          * Opening book: as used in the World Championship in Paderborn.
>>
>>          * EOC database setting: Use is STRONG.
>>          * PC: AMD K6-III 600 Mhz, 128Mb.
>>          * Other settings will be revealed during the game.
>>
>>          ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>          Conditions
>>
>>          * The game is scheduled on Saturday August 14 10:00 New York /
>>            16:00 Amsterdam time.
>>
>>          * The time control is 40 moves in 2 hours and then one hour
>>            for the rest of the game so a game can not take longer than
>>            6 hours.
>>
>>          * Move transmission via the Internet Chess Club.
>>
>>          * It should be guaranteed that both players can not lose on
>>            time due to problems (time loss) with the move transmission
>>            over the net. These games are meant to give some light on the
>>            current state of art of the on-going Man versus Machine
>>            event and should reflect a normal face-to-face event. For
>>            that purpose an arbiter is appointed and his decisions will
>>            be final.
>>
>>          * The arbiter is Enrique Irazoqui former chief editor of the
>>            "Computer Chess Reports" magazine.
>>
>>          * To ensure fair play the arbiter is send the Rebel version before
>>            the game is started and the arbiter will check all moves played
>>            by Rebel. Another (second) arbiter is installed at the place of
>>            the grandmaster, the normal rules apply.
>>
>>           ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>           LIVE support
>>
>>           LIVE support of the game at http://www.rebel.nl/LOG.HTM
>>
>>           You DO NOT have to press the REFRESH button of your browser
>>           to get an update as the page is automatically refreshed after
>>           180 seconds.
>>
>>           The match also can be followed on ICC. Rebel company and ICC
>>           agreed there is no payment required for this event.
>>
>>           Programmer Ed Schröder will be available on REBEL-BOARD for
>>           comments during the game.
>>
>>           ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>Schedule:
>>
>>GM Michael Rohde versus REBEL at August 14, 1999.
>>REBEL versus GM Alejandro Hoffman at September 4, 1999.
>>GM Ruslan Scherbakov versus REBEL at October 2, 1999.
>>GM Alexander Baburin versus REBEL at December 4, 1999.
>>
>>LINKS:
>>
>>http://www.rebel.nl/gm.htm
>>http://www.chessclub.com
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Ed Schroder
>
>SURE HOPE REBEL WINS THIS TIME ,the problem i see with this match is really the
>human has all the things in his favor .
>#1 he has the advantage of being able to play lots of games against rebel to
>prepare ,thats a huge advantage right there .
>
>i think the only way to win a situation like this is to change some settings on
>rebel opening book ect,otherwise you will be stepping into pre game study .



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