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Subject: Re: KQ vs kr position

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:48:48 08/03/99

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On August 03, 1999 at 18:24:07, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On August 03, 1999 at 17:44:33, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On August 03, 1999 at 15:33:10, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>[big snip]
>>>
>>>You "don't get it", because you have overlooked the word "adjourned".
>>>
>>>I will give a more specific example: HUMAN plays an ending where he ADJOURNS. He
>>>must mate OR make pawn move that preserves win OR capture that preserves win
>>>within say 6 moves to avoid the 50 move rule. In his ADJOURNMENT ANALYSIS, if he
>>>uses a SHORTEST MATE database, he may wrongly conclude he can't do it.
>>>
>>>1. Instead of
>>>      distance to: mate
>>>
>>>2. Better is single number representing
>>>      distance to: mate OR win preseving capture OR win preserving pawn move
>>>                         (whichever comes soonest)
>>>
>>>The 2nd way you ALWAYS win a winnable position. I find it hard to believe
>>>Nalimov did his EGTB the way you assert (The 1st way). There is nothing I can
>>>think of that would make the 2nd way listed above significant more difficult to
>>>do. There is no good reason, I can think of, for using the 1st way in preference
>>>to the 2nd one.
>>>
>>>I hope this is more clear, otherwise, I give up.
>>>
>>[big snip]
>>
>>	Nalimov tablebases store distance-to-mate and only distance-to-mate. I hope
>>this is clear, and I am sure you understand clearly my statement. If you do not
>>want to believe me, then I give up.
>>José.
>
>I will only believe it if Nalimov says it is so. If it true, there is a worthy
>project for someone to take up.


Believe what you want, of course.  But Nalimov's databases _only_ store distance
to mate for every position.  nothing else.  You can download his code and look
at it if you want to be convinced further...



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